karlg

Al Thanks for the suggestion. I was hoping for a solution that doesn't require editing each slide, since my use of PTE is just to whip up slideshows to show to friends. But I'm just learning to use the program and perhaps am overestimating how much work it would take to add such a message at the end of each slide. Karl

Lin Thanks for the info. I made a copy of my project, removed the "Stop at end of this slide" settings, and tried your solution. However, it doesn't solve my problem because: 1. When the show is in the paused mode (Navigator bar shows the triangle), clicking the arrows on the navigation bar does advance to the next slide, but the transitions, pans, and zooms don't happen. Using the "Stop at end of this slide" technique, I have several slides where I first show a zoomed in portion of the picture and then when the viewer advances the show (clicks the right arrow in the navigator or hits right arrow, PgDn, etc), the show zooms out to show the full picture. For other slides, I do the opposite: show the whole picture and then when the viewer advances the show, zoom in to a portion of the picture. In other cases I show a color version of a picture and when the viewer advances the show, it slowly fades into a B&W version of the same shot. In other cases I show a full pano and when the viewer advances the show, it zooms to the left end of the pano then scrolls across it. None of these work using the "put the show in pause mode" technique. For example, in the case of the pano, you see the whole pano, but when you click the arrow, it doesn't zoom to the end and scroll across, it seems to just do the first increment of the zoom and pan to the end and stays there. 2. If the above problem didn't exist, I would still have the problem that I don't see any way to specify that a show should start in paused mode. That is, letting the viewer have the choice of manual versus automatic (timed) advance would be great, but I'd want the show to default to manual. Come to think of it, I could always have the first slide contain an explanation and put a "Stop at end of this slide" on it. But it would still be nice to have the ability to make a show default to paused mode initially. Karl

I have a "manual" show. That is, I have set "Stop at the end of this slide" for all the slides in the show so that the viewer can decide when to go to the next picture (or pan/zoom location in a picture) using the keyboard or mouse. Is there some way I can set my show so it will give some indication to the viewer when the show is in the paused state? For example, I would like to have the Navigation Bar hide while the show is doing something (transitioning, panning, or zooming) but then pop up when it has stopped at the end of a slide. But it seems that the program only provides the OPPOSITE functionality: you can set the navigation bar so it will appear at the START of a slide instead of at the END of a slide. Or am I missing something? Thanks in advance. Karl

Sounds like there are at least two reasons why you may not get the colors from PTE that you expect: When you use a puck and its software on your display, the software guides you to adjust display settings such as brightness and contrast and it creates a profile file for the display. The profile contains two classes of data: global settings (such as gamma values) to be loaded into your video adapter and tables, coefficients, etc. that programs can use to map colors from an image's color space to the color space of your display. To get the most accurate colors possible on a display, you need to: 1. Run the puck's software to set the display's settings to the right values and create a profile 2. Arrange that the global settings in the profile will be loaded into your video adapter hardware. (The puck's software will typically do this. On Macs, it just has to set the profile as the default profile for the display. On WinXP, it sets up a program to run at startup to do it -- that is why you may see your display color change at some point during startup.) Of course, this assumes that if you load the settings into the video adapter, it will use them. Evidently, some ATI adapters ignore the settings for some or all of the 3D operations that PTE uses. This is the first reason that PTE may not give the colors you expect. As noted in other posts in this thread, turning off 3D can be used to see if this is happening for you. 3. Arrange that when an image is displayed, the RGB values are mapped from the image's color space to the display's color space. That is, for each pixel in the image, a color engine uses the profile that defines the image's color space and the profile that defines the display's color space to map the pixel's RGB value in the image to the RGB value that will produce the same color on the display. The easy way to achieve #3 is to use a color management aware (CMA) program, such as Photoshop, which is aware of the color spaces of the image and the display and does the mapping on-the-fly whenever it sends the image to the display. Unfortunately, most programs are color management naive (CMN) -- they just send the RGB values from the image to the display. In order to see as-accurate-as-possible colors with a CMN program, you have no choice except to convert the image to the display's profile _before_ presenting it to the program (e.g. make a copy of the image, use Photoshop's Convert To Profile command on it, then give it to the CMN program). From empirical tests, I have determined that PTE is CMN. (Igor: please correct me if I am wrong.) Thus, the second potential reason that people don't get the colors they expect is that they don't realize that PTE is CMN. For example, you have an AdobeRGB image that looks right when viewed in PS, but not in PTE. The workaround is to convert the image to the display's color space as described above. Similarly for the photo club projector issue: if you are using PTE for your presentation, you should generate a copy of the presentation from images that you converted to the _projector's_ color space. Note: this is what you should do to display the most accurate colors. In practice, just having the display or projector calibrated (that is, the display's settings are properly set and the global settings from the profile are loaded into the video adapter) will often result in acceptable colors. Of course, it depends on how similar the image's color space is to the display's color space. I hope that a future version of PTE will be CMA so that we will no longer need to have multiple copies of our images. A third reason you may not get the color you expect is out-of-gamut colors. This is especially likely in the projector case since typically projects have smaller gamuts than computer displays. Well, I've rambled on enough for now.... Cheers Karl