thanks for your concern I found that in Magico i made each segment or scene complete with audio timed fade out. This then butted up to another complete scene with audio fading up. It works well but i realize you could not do it for bits of a scene .If as i want to do say a travelog each area is an identity to itself but combines to make a whole show. By being able to do that its possible to combine what you want for the time of show you want.I notice in forums folk were asking about joining exe to exe well i think they were in fact asking same as me but joining exe instead of pte. What i want to do i guess is what you doo with movie editors joing clips but mine are ptes in this case. I wonder if i am alone thinking this way ? jon [midd uk]