Ok tell me how I combine thread, I made a mistake I have been a member since 2003,, have a look at the number of posts I have made and you will see I am new to posting. the information I have given is all I have. I try and install 4.48 on windows vista and it gives an error message of Appscrash, thats it nothing else. Do you guys know what this means and how I rectify it? ASH