jacksno8 Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Hi First post! Ive really enjoyed reading through this forum.We have recently been using PTE for photographic presentations, sending examples of our work out to clients etc. As we become more adept at the presentations (as im sure we all so) we want to make them better and smoother - more proffesional. My question is about the C word for music. We have sent out some examples with downloaded music tracks making superb shows. What im wondering is ....... Has anyone been caught doing this? What would the penalties be? What do you reckon the chance of getting caught would be? I know i sound very dodgy, and yes i have tried some copyright free music (but it sucked!!) Just looking for your thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Image Suite Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Hi Jacksno8Fraught with danger! I suggest that you have a good look through the forums within here, as this has been covered in here very thoroughly in the past. I would also refer you to the 'C' word section of the website for the Institute of Amateur Cinematographers (sorry I don't have the address to-hand but it appears on top in the Google search) which as a whole screed on the subject. In short, I don't recommend it - I believe the fines are heavy. The internet is awash with royalty free music that you can buy for as little as $29 a track.......I develop and produce commercial audio-visuals for a living and I wouldn't risk it - hence I purchase all my tracks off 'royalty free' sites where you are supplied with a recognised licence. The danger ofcourse is....who is your client going to show it to - and the morality is - would you like someone to rip off your products?Hope this helpsThe Image Suite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Cox Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Jacksno8see column on right athttp://www.apple.com/itunes/download/I went there to see if these tunes would fall into an area where you could use them in your shows if you bought them at .99 cents ea --- says for personal use only We have discussed this area many times and the way copyrights work you are up a creek -- apparently. Why not talk to a local radio station and see how many hoops they have to jump thru in order to play tunes on the air or a local disc jockey that plays music at dances weddings etcken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maureen Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 Hi jacksno8Suggest you look back at PTE forum pages ..........copyright searchhttp://www.picturestoexe.com/forums//index...&f=2&t=1297&hl=http://www.picturestoexe.com/forums//index...ct=ST&f=2&t=299The IAC site http://www.theiac.org.uk/central/copyright2003.html U S Copyright http://www.mcps.co.uk/medialicensing/http://www.editor.net/bcc/index.htmCurrent fines are around £2000 PLUS costs. Yes some have been caught & fined.Recently I was given some information that a professional licence costs about £17 for about 100 copies, but have not found any evidence to back this up.Hope this helpsBWMaureen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameraman Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 According to the legal department of BMI and ASCAP you may use copyrighted music and sell a slide show to your client as long as your client brings in the music on a commercial CD which they personally own. You are selling the creation of the show itself, not the music. The music is for their own personal use and therefore can be copied, even by you to be put into their show. No licensing fee is required for this type of use. Again, the customer must own the original CD and you must copy it from that CD to make it all legal.Where you fall into trouble is if you use YOUR music or downloaded music to sell or present the show, in public or even in your studio. Sending out samples of your work with copyrighted music is illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameraman Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 Added note: this is true in USA. do not know of the legalities in other countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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