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Me and a couple of semi-retired friends have developed a web site for the sole purpose of showcasing the audio-visual creations of anyone who wants to share them with the public. We not only celebrate the Producers but also all the audio-visual software developers who provide the tools to help make this magic happen.

We love PicturesToEXE and Igor, the Wizard of Russia!

This post is your invitation to submit your productions. Our website at www.tinymedia.net explains how to do this quickly and easily and it provides some suggestions on how to plan and output your productions. It's all free. Click around the site and view the 'tutorial' series to help you get started. We had a lot of fun putting all this together (we don't have much else to do). We want it to be fun for you as well.

Brian

www.tinymedia.net

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Hello Brian,

I would like to offer you my best wishes for the future success of your ne web site. It sounds very interesting and I will be having a look around later on today - may even post a couple of things, you never know.

All the best!

Ron West

UPDATE: I just tried to log on to your web site but the page is unobtainable. Is something wrong?

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Hi Ron,

The site seems to be OK now. You gave me quite a fright. Anyway, thanks for the kind words. Some of the shows already up there contain sequences done in P2EXE. Igor really built a great program. Using all the new features of the latest version, it was quite easy for me to convert the shows to the required format. I'm hoping more posters here will take the time to prepare and share their shows. All of us at TinyMedia are just hobbyists and we're having fun developing and showcasing our work. I've seen some really great shows by following links from forum members. They really should be seen by a wider audience. If you want, we can use this thread to answer any queries about preparing and uploading shows from forum members. I would enjoy doing so. I can't think of a better way to promote Igor's program than to see it as part of the toolset in the Producer's profile.

I also posted on the other audio-visual software developers forums and we are getting quite a large number of "hits" on our site so we know people are definitely coming back to see the new shows as they are uploaded. What we're missing is the fantastic photography done by the members here. We look forward to seeing them on TinyMedia. I realize some posters may be shy or hesitant to share but I assure you they would be well received. There are no "rights" issues at TinyMedia. We don't want to retain any rights to what's uploaded. We just want everyone to watch and enjoy the shows.

Thanks again for the kind words.

Brian

www.tinymedia.net

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This is a really nice offer and has some great potential that I'd like to test. Could you provide some idea of the easiest way to get from the MPEG output of PTE to the size requirements you have for the WMV file (512x288). I have a converter that will generate the WMV file but it does not allow me to specify the dimensions of the frame. Do you have some software recommendations that aren't several hundreds of dollars? Thanks for any help you can offer.

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Hi,

Most of you already have the converter on your computer. It's called Windows Movie Maker ...

1. Use Igor's 16:9 aspect ratio to make your show in P2EXE

2. Generate an uncompressed .avi or .mpeg file from P2EXE

3. Bring the file into WMM and click on "more settings" in the 'make movie' dialog box.

4. Set your frame size and bit rate.

That should do it.

Brian

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Hi again,

Just want to add to what I just posted ....

1. If you're going to use WMM, it appears that you'll have to prepare your visuals at 512 x 288 beforehand. In other words, set the frame size in your favourite image editor before bringing them in to P2EXE.

2. Start a new project in WMM and go to "Tools" and select the NTSC Widescreen 16:9 format.

3. In WMM, after clicking "Save to my Computer" click 'Show More Choices' and then click "Other Settings"

4. Try "Video for Lan" at 1MB. If your show renders with a file size above 5MB, try the 768 setting or the 512 setting.

I hope that's clear. If not, I'll walk you through it again.

Brian

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Bruce

Thanks, I was interested to know, I use Win AVI Video Converter and Blaze Media Pro, as the name suggests you have to state with an AVI file. I assume that creating an AVI file in PTE there is a loss of some quality, if your converter, converted from PTE then that would be a benefit.

Ron

Here is a link to the WINAVI website http://www.winavi.com/en/video-converter/video-converter.htm

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"I assume that creating an AVI file in PTE there is a loss of some quality"

Hi Ron,

First, let me say that absolutely no conversion or other editing program program currently available today can produce a quality as good as a photo compiler like P2EXE. Converting from an .EXE file to any other video format will reduce quality. To maintain this high quality, your only option is sharing the .EXE files. There is nothing wrong with this but it's getting harder as more people refuse to download or open .exe programs. There's a stigma attached to them in the minds of people. It was brought about by the tons of virus activity and the hysteria of the anti-virus program developers. I think Igor realized this and added video features to the program to enable the sharing these shows without grief. In my opinion, this was a good and important move. A vast majority of hosting sites will absolutely refuse to have .EXE files uploaded to their servers for sharing. They are afraid. Frankly, it's hard to blame them.

So, that leaves you with a loss of some quality if you want a larger audience. The only thing you can do is minimize the quality loss by maintaining the aspect ratios before and after conversion. This is the biggest factor in the degradation of the end product. The other factors are the amount of pans and zooms and fancy effects that converters have much trouble with. But no matter what you do, you will not have the beauty of full screen shows that P2EXE can give you natively if you decide to convert. This is the trade-off that everyone has to accept if they want to share their productions. It's sad. I spent a lot of time and money trying to go against the grain and ended up only accepting converted files on TinyMedia. I wish there was another way. I really do. I've made some beautiful shows in P2EXE that will never be shown outside my family and close friends.

Brian

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I did some experiments converting avi files to wmv files using Windows Movie Maker with the help of a member of this great forum and found that there's a problem with forcing the frame size to the required spec. I was hoping that the embedded player on our page would snap it to the right size but it sadly, it won't. I did, however, find a small cheap program that will do the job. Sorry for misleading you. Anyway, here's the link:

http://www.yasasoft.com/tutorials/avitowmv.htm

Regards to all

Brian

www.tinymedia.net

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