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Hi SoCu, I understand what you try to do - make a bigger copy of the text object under the normal text, to look like an outline effect. The problem is - when you make the font size bigger, the letters don't grow the same on all sides. Bigger letters shift a bit and cover the small text more on one side, less on other side. This is why outline look normally in some places and not OK in other places. Jill's idea is the right way for this - use Ring Shadow to simulate outline effect. P.S. Your pictures are on Imgur web service, and Jill can not see them, because of regional limitations of Imgur. Better to upload pictures as attachment to your post here on forum, not link to outside service.