Ken, Getting a very big file with Indeo Codec is absolutely normal. It provides a truth AVI file (quite the same size as mpeg2 file). This big size is due to the 25 images/seconds frame rate. P2e that is a very clever prog and avoid having this long step. P2e only uses (I think) one basic picture for each frame and add the effect at 25 fps for the exe file. Better than that for the "pseudo AVI" file the basic pictures probably remain at their own location. Note that in your example, your AVI file is probaly only 28.8 KBits. About the quality with Indeo/Nero, the fault is probably due to Nero that is not as good as TMPGenc to encode AVI files. A better way to compare will be probaly: p2e+Indeo/TMPGenc/Nero. I also did some positive tests with the new Microsoft WMV9 standard (free codec also). May be later, it will be commonly in use in our living rooms! All this is only "to talk" and for "experiences" because we have still the right way in using PTE as it is. Have a nice day Ken