I was very very happy to read that AVG have sorted out the problem today, so I updated my free AVG just an hour ago, re-booted my computer and scanned one of my "suspect" exe files. AVG free immediately came up with a Trojan alert just as it had done over the weekend. So, I downloaded the version of the AV that we have on Beechbrook (DPAGB on page 4 of the Beechbrook downloads). As soon as I started the AV up, AVG sprang into action and gave me the alert that it had found psw.banker.hmq again. I am sorry I cannot tell you which version of P2E this was made from, though this version of the AV was dated Sept 2004. I would be interested for someone else to download DPAGB from Beechbrook and check it against their AVG installation in case there's something I am missing!! Thanks Chris