goddi Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 Greetings, I had a bit of concern how would the video clips from my new Insta360 X3 camera would work with PTE. I just gave it a test run with a couple clips from a recent trip. The re-framing (panning) was done in the Insta360 desktop app. The 2 exported MP4s were put in PTE where the text and music was added. Came out pretty good, I think. Gary 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digartal Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 Works well. Quite effective. I wondered about this myself as I have the Theta Z1 and was thinking of ungrading to the X3. Thanks for sharing. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddi Posted May 9 Author Report Share Posted May 9 Greetings Mark, I wish I had taken more video with the Insta360 on our trip. I had not used it before so I was hesitant using it since I also had my DSLR and a GoPro. And I didn't have time to practice with it before the trip. The biggest surprise was that each Insta360 clip you take produces 6 files. And I found out you can't rename its long filenames because they will not work if you do. So, to keep things as simple as I could, I put the Insta360 files for the two clips used in this show in its own folder. For a heads up, here is what the folder looked like for this video, which uses just two short Insta360 video clips. So...the first Insta360 clip created the 6 files circled in red. The second Insta360 clip created the 6 files circled in blue. The 2 exported mp4 clips from the Insta360 are circled in green, as 4k, 50 bit rate. Both of these 2 exported mp4 clips were put in my PTE AV Studio program to add the text and music. These clips were 'published' in PTE, at 60 fps 1920x1080, and it is circled in brown, as the final video. So the final video gets reduced to about 95 Mbs. Yes, easy (sort of) to film, but the re-framing (panning), etc., takes a bit of time deciding which of the 360 angle you really want to use. And you are going to need a good bit of storage space if you use it a lot. But it is nice that PTE can use them without any problems. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digartal Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 Thanks Gary, that has been the criticism of the Insta files in various 360degree forums (propietary software editing). The Theta uses DNG and JPEG for stills and MP4 for video so universal editing tools apply. Storage with any video is a problem (even mobile). The good thing is that storage is cheap these days. The other option is the cloud which removes the loss of files due to hardware or theft. My normal equirectangular 360's images from the drone and the Theta can generate video using a screen recorder but quality is not great. The big issue will be weight and what photographic toys to take with me when travelling. Thanks again. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddi Posted May 9 Author Report Share Posted May 9 Greetings Mark, I have not used the Insta360 app for the phone. I hear it has more 'features'. I've only dabbled with the desktop version, so far, which seems to work well. Having used keyframes with PTE, it makes it easy to do the re-framing quickly. You said the magic word...weight. This last trip made me rethink my photographic tools. I've always used and loved my DSLR (Nikon 7100). This trip, I used a BlackRapid shoulder strap to carry it that worked well, but the weight also irritated my back pain. So I am thinking of just going with a cell phone for photography. I like the Samsung S24 Ultra. I also brought my GoPro and the Insta360, and 2 other 'pocket' cameras. But I was running out of pockets. When you add all the extra batteries, cables, etc., for all these cameras, it gets crazy. I'd keep my GoPro (good video and stabilization) and the Insta360 (fun) since they are lightweight. I've seen a grip that you can put on a cell phone so it at least feels more like holding a real camera. Not sure what I will do but something has to give... Gary 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digartal Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 Yes I have the S23 Ultra and will upgrade before a trip to Europe next year. Check out my FB page to see some examples of stills and videos created on the mobile. It is my go to phone bit no good for blurred motion, decisive moment or IR that I shoot a lot of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhwarner Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 Interesting video, and thanks for all the great information Gary! Glad to see you guys are still traveling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddi Posted Friday at 05:32 PM Author Report Share Posted Friday at 05:32 PM Greetings, I made a bit of a mistake in my original post about the files that the Inst360 creates. I now better understand what is going on. For each clip, the Insta360 creates one '.lrv' file with two '.insv' files. So, in my posting screenshot, instead of what I thought were files for only 2 clips, it is actually for 4 clips. For example, the '001.lrv' goes with the two '001.insv' files. The '002.lrv' goes with the two '002.insv' files. Kinda crazy but fun to work with, etc. (The two '.lrv' files for each clip are one for each camera). Gary 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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