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Pete & Lin, In our Workshops we have gone over to 'SD-Memory Cards' (Camera type) of 1 and 2.Gb sizes. All our Computers have a little external 'Combo USB2.0 Hub' giving us 3 extra USB Ports and all the Camera Card Inputs (Approx $20). Slap the entire Folder on to the SD-Card and download it on to the other Computer. These Cards are so cheap today its only necessary to have PTE on both Computers. Its an alternative that looses nothing over time with a Guaranteed 10 Year Memory retention factor and over 100,000 Read & Write operations ~ that's better than most CD-Disc's which are so fragile where as the SD-Card is a more permanent reliable Memory media. Brian.Conflow.

Live Demonstration ~ Griffin iMIC (An iPod Product) For those of you looking for a simple (Lo-cost) 'Voice-Over Generator' there are few products which will surpass the 'Griffin-iMic USB Adaptor' both in terms of quality and ease of use. Plug-in any 'Sound Source' into the iMIC and it will convert the audio signals directly into the USB Format (PCM Sound) which completely by-passes the internal Sound-Card giving superb quality with no noise. All this for a cost less than £30 and even lower from E-Bay. Inputs include:- Microphones, Phono-Decks, Tape-Decks and any other sound sources at norm levels. Complete with Software which supplies 'curve-corrections' for Phono-Decks and Tape-Decks and a converter which transforms the PCM Files into Mp3 or Wav for further Sound-Editing. Below is a 'Screenshot' of the Adaptor and a "Link" to a Demonstration 'Voice-Over' by Tom McCourt. Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?4ngm5nayoto Hope you find this useful. Brian.Conflow.

Dave, May I suggest that you open a 'New Topic' :-..."Different Types Of Microphones".....Topic Description..."Their uses ??" I shall gladly contribute to that (as will others) and I'm sure it will be a very popular Topic and a most useful one for the newly emerging sector in "PTE Sound Systems" ~ it's a very good idea indeed as there are many types of Microphones and many uses for these. Brian.Conflow.

Peter, You Wrote...I do NOT have a separate sound card and it does not look as if I have any facility for Line Input on my PC ".... Are we talking about a Desktop PC or a Laptop/Notepad Computer ??....Let me know what Make & Model of Computer you own and I will check it out. The Griffin 1102 is the latest version of the illustration had posted. I have also asked Tom Court (Tomuk) if he had his Show called 'Butterflies' available and perhaps you would send him an EMail for a copy of his show. He made the Sound Track with the Griffin iMIC and the sound was excellent. Brian.Conflow.

John, You wrote:....."On the subject of voice recording, (which I don't do a lot of), I purchased a Griffin iMIC again on Brian's recommendation on this forum some time ago and it beats the H2 hands down for this use. Although I am still looking for the "perfect" microphone to use with it which is not too expensive".... Try 'Sound-Lab Microphones' they are available from Electronic Component Suppliers (Yellow Pages) they are a cost effective alternative to AKG, Shure etc. They are solid Metal construction, Pop-proof, Wind resistant, Rugged, Heavy and essentially Hand-Noise free. Super Cardoid versions are ideal for O/B work and with a Desk-Stand you have good Semi-Pro performance. They are very popular in Clubs, Rock Groups, PA.Systems because of thier rugged construction. We use the Type:G-147 Cardoid (about £30) but other versions available from £15. (Google:- Sound-Lab Microphones) Below is a 'Trade-Link' select Microphones on the Left-Search Panel. http://www.soundlightuk.com/SoundLAB/Micro...s/balanced1.htm Brian.Conflow.

Dave, Please re-read my Posts Nos: #27 and #29 above and you will see that I specifically agree with you, but there is an amount of confusion about this whole 'Voice-Over' subject which is not really 'on-topic' in this thread, however:- 1) There is a case for 'Lo-Cost Desktop Voice-Overs' and another case for 'Pro-Cost Desktop Voice-Overs'. 2) The Griffin iMic System is superb for the Lo-Cost sectors ~and~ the Edriol 4FX is perfect for the Pro-Cost sectors. 3 Why anyone use's a Digital Recorder simply for the sole purpose of making 'Desktop Voice-Overs' is beyond me. Now for the O/B Recordist Sector... a) A need exists for a good Lo-Cost O/B Recorder such as the Zoom H2 -and- a Pro-Cost Recorder,eg:- Sony or Edriol etc; There is an O/B need to record:- Interviews ~ Nature Sounds ~ Sound Effects and this is where the Digital Recorder is needed. c) Sure one could push these into 'Desktop Voice-Over' usage, but that's not the origional design intent for these Recorders. Why use the Griffin iMIC or the Edriol 4FX to download these Recorders ?? You are killing 2 Birds with one stone:- O/B Sound Downloading and Desktop Voice-Overs and because you can convert the PCM Sound Tracks into Mp3 or WAV for direct Sound Editing which is impossible to do with virgin PCM Sound Tracks. So effectively you are getting the best of both Worlds with 'superb quality' as an additional bonus. Hope this helps, Brian.Conflow.

Ken, Yep,thats it...the Sony PCM-D50...superb Recorder, but at $500 dollars its really aimed at the 'Top End' Forum User whereas at $190 dollars the Zoom H2 would probably satisfy most Forum Members for Voice-Overs and general O/B Work....provided they are going to do O/B Work. But why anyone should buy a Digital Recorder just for 'Desktop Voice-Overs' when the $50 dollar "Griffin iMIC" USB Input Module beats them all "stone dead" certainly astonishes me !!! All the best, Brian.Conflow.

Dave, Thats one nice piece of Kit ~ very cleverly designed ~ thanks for bringing it to my attentions, its gone into the Techno Archive. If Barry Digital is reading this it would be an excellent accompliment to the EDIROL or SONY Digital Recorders and it would certainly enhance his PTE Productions and those are really good in the 1st place. Thanks again Dave, Brian.Conflow.

Peter, Firstly, I had forgotten to advise you to make sure you get the 'Software-Disc' with the Griffin iMIC (should you buy one) or alternatively download the (Free) Griffin Mic Software from iPod or iMac ~ this is of vital importance, viz:- The Software converts the recorder 'Digitised PCM Audio' into Mp3 or Wav Files and in particular if you are using a Phono Deck it decodes the PCM Tracks into the correct LP Disc curves ie:- either CCIR or NAB, or NARTB correction for Tape Decks. Secondly, most Mic Pre-Amp are designed to run into Line-Inputs of Mixers and PC Lin-in Sockets. This depending on the resident PC Sound-Card. Some 'Sound-Cards' have no Line-In Controls and use the WAV Input Controls instead. Some 'Sound-Cards' have 2 Mixers, (a) Playback Mixer Volume Sliders and ( Recording Mixer Volume Sliders. Other Cards like the 'Conexant Cards' have 'Combi-Replay-Record-Volume Sliders' which have to be individually selected. In all circumstances select the 'Options' Button on top-left of the 'Volume Mixer Window' then select Properties and proceed from there... See the 'Screen-Shots' below for more detail... Hope this helps you, Brian.Conflow.

Igor, Thats good news ~ the only other thing you need to worrry about now are 'Auto-Key Loggers' and they are easy to defeat, but you need the help of the 'Invision Board' people to create a proxy Server which 'encrypts' genuine Passwords against a known Members Password List (supplied by WnSoft) to the Invision Board people ~ that puts those 'Auto-Key Logger' crooks out of Business. It's just a suggestion worth trying out...and it makes your life a lot easier. I hope it all works out well for you, best of luck. Brian.Conflow.

Hi Igor, I have seen this type of thing before ~ its most likely an 'Automatic-Key Logger' locked on to the Forum IPS Number. This is very simple thing to do,viz:- Did you know that any 'GUEST' can look at a 'Members Profile' without logging on to the Forum... The Guest simply place's his cursor over the Members 'User Name' and clicks it... there is the Members entire profile ! Did you know that a GUEST can start to send an EMail to any Member without Logging on...he selects 'Send Mail' within the Members Profile by using any Members 'user name' then using the 'Forgotten Password' utility which asks for an Mail Address ~ thats easy to find or create particularily if an 'Auto-Key Logger' is active, need I say more.... Now he has a 'User Name' and has 2 IPS Address's:- (a) The Forums IPS and ( The Members IPS and © User Name now the 'Auto-Key Logger' has all the data it needs to send Spam to all it's recorded IPS Numbers. This problem does not surprise me at all ~ it happens on other Invision Board Forums~ and why they have NOT closed that loop-hole is unbelievable. You need to have words with them, Brian.Conflow.

Peter, You might send an EMail to 'Tomuk' who uses the Griffin as I do, and he had a wonderful demo of this on MediaFire. The Griffin iMIC is totally different in technology compared to the 'Samson Intergrated-USB Mic' in fact it doesn't have a Mic in it. You supply the Mic and any other Sound-device which requires conversion to USB Technology which then completely by-passes the internal Sound-Card in the PC. The Sound signals are now Digitised PCM (no-noise), thats probably the reason you couldn't get an input to Audition, I don't think it supports PCM ~ Audacity does. The Griffin incorporates the Stereo A/DConverters somewhat like those used in the Zoom H2/H4 Recorders and that quality is purely dependent on the Mic(s) deployed. Brian.Conflow.

Peter, Let me try and answer this for you: There are 3 Mini-Jack Sockets on most PC's,viz:- Mic Input ~ Line Input ~ Line Output (The latter is the Signal-outputs to Amps,Mixers etc) * The Mic Input ~ This is for Hi-Level 'Electret Mics' such as those which used to come with your PC. These (cheap) Mics have a Hi-Signal output ( 5-50millevolt) somewhat like the old Crystal Microphones and they worked into a Mic Socket which is Hi-resistance so they used to pick-up 'Hum & Noise' from their surroundings should the Mic cable be too long or placed near other electrical apparatus. * Unfortunately PC-Owners "assumed" that the Mic Socket would accept a quality Dymanic-Microphone which is somewhere near 600.ohm (Lo-resistance) and very low output signal...usually less than 1.Millevolt. Of course there was a total electrical "mis-match" and the consequence of this was lo-recording levels and very high Hum & Noise. That erroneous "assumption" is still truly well and alive to this present day....thats your answer ! * The Line Input ~ This was designed to accept Hi-level Signals (nominal) 750.millevolt into 600.Ohm load but usually set about +1000.ohm load. The 'Hum & Noise' levels here are very low and in modern PCs is about -60.db or lower. In plain English thats about or less than, one/thousand of the Input Signal expected. * AKG Mic and Amplifier ~ Thats the correct way to do this job, a decent Mic and Mic pre-Amp with Volume Control and some Filter Switches and a Mute Switch. But because this is getting technical most Forum Members would shy away from such ~ more's the pity, because they don't know what they are missing !!! * Another Simple Solution Below is a Snapshot of the 'Griffin iMic System' (iPod Technology) which gives superb 'Voice-Overs' and it appeared on this Forum about a year ago ~ I was surprised with its performance and shocked that more Members didn't give it a try...thats life. Regards, Brian.Conflow.

Many Thanks Igor, I had noticed an increase in the 'Spam' count from these Keyloggers. Someday the 'Invision Board' might install a 'Spam-Bouncer' on our Forum and that would put many of these people out of Business. Brian.Conflow.

Howard, Your Edriol RO-9 Recorder Don't be nervous ~thats what the Forum is all about~ unbiased contributions from Members such as yourself. To me, that Frequency response is more or less in order and what I would have expected from a good Recorder and I had demonstrated such in a Graph in a previous Post. Above 10~12000.Hz there is an expected peak which is normal for 'Digital-Recorders' and is usually beyond normal Adult-Hearing...so no problems there. That peak is normal 'noise-spectra' from the AD Converters and is evident on all PC's never mind Recorders ~ and the vast majority of Loudspeakers can't reproduce it anyway and more important Edriol have incorporated a 'switchable-filter' to normalise the peak with a -6.db/octave rolloff. ~Nice one~ I see that its using very good 'Cardoid Condenser Mics' and their 'polar patterns' is what I would have expected from a quality machine. That pick-up pattern working with the 'switchable-filters' would certainly give a good solid recording. All in all, a very excellent Recorder in the same league and price range as the Sony. You have a nice recorder there Howard, Brian.Conflow.

Dave & Barry, Dave, I have found nothing on the Fostex-FX2LE ~ but you are right about the 'Sony Mini Disc Unit' and Sony in general. Sony have spent a fortune on the entire Walkman series including the Digital-PCMD50 (superb unit) which is more or less the same price as the Zoom H4 (approx $500). (In comparison the Zoom H2 is retailing about $200 but its an entirely different Unit). Barry - I have a fair idea of what you like and I would suggest the Sony-PCMD50. its really your type of machine. Others in the same bracket are the Olympus LS-10 and the Edriol RO-9. Personally - We were using Digital Recorders in our work but ditched them some time ago for the reason that there is no (cost effective) 'Digital Graphic Equaliser Software' available on the market suitable for 'Post Recording Editing'....so we went back to our old Sony's GX-400 and the newer GX-600's, (genuine Cassette Recorders) ~ superb 'auto-level control' and suberb 3 position 'noise-control' and the only things which work effectively in noisy environments such as Trains, Ships, and Aircraft and their 'ambient silence performance' is excellent ~then thats our Work~ and Sony does the job...what you hear is what you get !! For Forum 'Voice-Overs' the little Zoom H2 at $200 is hard to beat once you get used to it 'peculiarities' ~ its main feature is the amount of control over 'Recording Levels' whereas with the H4 these are fixed ~ but they are not Sony !!. Hope this puts things into perspective... Brian.Conflow.

Barry, You were looking for a 'simple review' on the H2 and H4 Recorders, but firstly lets get things straight,viz:- Zoom Model H4 -has- 2 Condenser Microphones and 3 (setting) Level controls and an 8 Function Auto-Gain System which is great for people on the move. When any of the 8 AGC Programs are selected it cancels the 3 manual settings and tends to counteract any induced 'clipping'. Zoom Model H2 -has- 4 microphones, its larger and less 'fiddley' than the H4, but only has 3 Volume Level settings each with very limited auto-gain (up near maximun level of any 3 settings) and is quite easy to push it into 'clipping' but has other adaptable features of 'surround-sound' as well as 'directional pick-up'. Here below is a simple 'Review' of other like Recorders on the Market ~ this page is expandable into each Recorders functions. Have fun... Brian.Conflow link: http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/audio/port...der-comparison/

Peter, It goes without saying, I completely agree with you, yes it is a 'New Era' for A/V Enthusiasts and yes 'new skill-sets' will have to be learnt. Concerning the 'clipping issue' you are partly correct once the Recorder System is linear as was in older Analog Sound Recorders. These required pre-emphasis when recording high frequencies sounds and de-emphasis on playback to linearise the signals back to normal. Its called the CCIR and NAB equalisation curves ~ European and American respectively. However Digital Recorders are a totally different animal alltogether for the reason, not only do they have to 'digitise' the volume levels of the sounds but they have to 'digitise' all the different audible frequencies of the sounds...and all this in Stereo ! Recording with digital electronics requires expensive AD Converters (Analog to Digital) of 2 varieties:- A Logarithmic Level Converter and a Frequency to Digital Converter and and other exotic devices to get the Sounds into digital formats for the Memory Card. Then we have to do the reverse in Playback with your PC so we can hear live sounds. We designed and made 'Digital Sounds Systems' as far back as 1997 for Irish Railways and in those days we could get the box down to 9"x6"x2" in size. Now look at the H2-H4. Getting back to the H2-H4 ~ the AD Converters in the Recorders would be nothing like those in the Nagra's nor the Sony Recorders~ in fact they are a compromise where lower Bass frequencies are not really expected and they would not be expected to Record the ultra-low 'pop-noise' which is so evident in all Speech, particularily in Male speech which gives rise to clipping. This is difficult to correct,see below... Lower Frequeny Waves have very high energy content and are very difficult to 'digitise' whereas Hi-Frequencies have less energy and are easier to 'digitise' but the higher they go the more digital noise is created ~ so we have to compromise in Lo-Cost equipment. Thus the reason for the 'Sound Baffle' I described in my last Post. I enclose a little graph below which explains what I'm talking about however once the concepts are understood it is relatively easy to correct these deficiencies which the expensive Recorders do as a matter of course...thus their Hi-Costs...thats life! Regards, Brian.Conflow

Dave, You are absolutely correct ~ that was a good comparison and a good 'after' comment. On the Forum we essentially have a 'usage problem' where the Recorder is being used for 'Quality Voice-Overs' ~ and on our Forum we also have some Studio and TV Pro Members ~ and they will confirm that quality 'Voice-Overs' are the most difficult task in Audio Sound engineering and they usually use a $7000 Nagra O/B Recorder to do this or else the Nagra Apres Series for Radio Reporters....tricky stuff ! Yes it is possible to sort out the 'clipping' by direct and indirect means. Firstly you need a very quite room (lots of Curtains & Soft Furnishings) and a good solid Table or Desk. Get a large Blanket and fold it so that it completely covers the Desk-Top. Next thing you want is a 'Baffle' made of MDF or 10mm Ply. about 12"high and 24"wide cut down the middle so you have 2 sheets about 12x12"each. Join both together with a heavy fabric hinge so you can place each at 90° to each other. Place the Recorder behind the Baffle about 18" total distant from your Mouth. The Recorder should be set to the "Lo-Mic" setting and if it has AGC use AGC No:1 or No:2 Now talk towards the V of the Baffle and you will find that the Bass frequencies are dispersed whilst the Hi frequencies are O.K. It does require some 'fiddling' till you get the optimum ~ Also a good O/B Mic Windshield will hold the Recorder and go a long way to sorting things out. O/B=Outside-Broadcast. Thats what we usually do when recording 'speech' withing moving Trains. Brian.Conflow.

Barry, Thats quite simple to explain,viz:- * Every bit of good quality Audio gear should amplify all audible sounds equally and its ability to do that is represented by a horizontal graph which (theoretically) should be a straight line...OK ! * The Manufacturers of the Zoom Recorders (conveniently) forgot to publish this vital information and you will not find it anywhere on the Web. It took an independent 'Review Studio' to Test and publish this so that the relative sound-fidelity could be measured...in others words how "Hi-Fi" is the product. * Zoom Recorders 'boost' the Bass frequencies way above the straight line to such an extent that 'sound clipping' occurs ~ now if you knew that in the 1st instance...would you buy one ?? * All the other issues such as Batteries, Memory Cards etc; are clearly explained in plain English by the Author for user information purposes....these were ignored by the Manufacturer. * Like everything in life we take a chance when we buy any Product, but knowing its 'weak-points' allows us to assess the worthwhile-ness and value to of that particular product. The Zoom Recorders are good products, but the claims are excessive, whilst the performance is moderate !! All the best, Brian.Conflow.

Tech Review of the Zoom H4 Sound Recorder Hi All, Some Moderators may consider this Post as 'Off-Topic' but I consider anything which effects the PTE Program and 'Member Users' of PTE to be very much on topic ~ particularily if such avoids future 'pitfalls' in PTE usage. The H4 Sound Recorder has been around for the past few years and has been adopted by the Pop-Music Industry but also alludes to claim 'professional' recording performance for other sectors ~ sorry,this is not true ! This Recorder has got problems and some of those have popped up here on the Forum and need to be explained... This in no way detracts from the Recorder once its 'usage-classification' is understood and false claims rejected. Summary of the H4 Recorder * It is a good quality Recorder for simple 'Voice-Overs' within the speech range 100.Hz ~ 8000.Hz within +/- 10.db range. * It suffers from 'clipping' as the VU Meter does not genuinely reflect the actual Recording Level across the above range. * It has a highly elevated Bass response below 100.Hz and a (firmware) Filter Cut-Off above 15000.Hz. ~ so its non-linear. * Other issues are SD-Card selection, and Battery Life, as well as LF-Noise. * All of these issues are "correctable" and are clearly dealt with in the Sonic-Studio Review ~ See link below. We in Conflow always see a 'Red-Light' when Manufacturers dont publish a Frequency-Response curve and a Noise-Spectra for Audio products and our doubts have been confirmed with the Sonic-Studio Tests. Screenshot and Links below. Brian.Conflow. Link: http://www.sonicstudios.com/zoomh4rv.htm

Yachtsman, What you have experienced is quite normal to those with little experience of 'Live Voice Recording'...the problems are as follows:- 1) Being overly self-concious of what you are doing tends to create a 'monotone voice-over'...this is natural, as one tends to over-compensate speech diction in an effort to maintain control over 'voice-delivery'. 2) What the 'Brain' hears and what the Mic hears are two different things, let me explain:- The 'Brain' hears multiple sounds both from your larynx/voice-box through the soft neck tissue and also the sounds from your Ears. Ear-Sounds create a 'feedback' to the Brain so it can control the speech sound's from your larynx/voicebox ~ if it didn't you would be speaking 'gooblty-gook'. But the Microphone(s) have no such 'feedback' signals so there are no sound attenuations and consequently what the Recorder re-plays is exactly how others hear you. 3) The Lancashire accent is a lovely colloquial accent which is very rich in its diversity....it just so happens that you got a shock when you heard the re-play of your unique diction. Never be ashamed of your accent, its uniquely you. Here's a Tip: Get yourself a good legible Book, retire to the Bathroom with your Recorder (then forget it !)...now read aloud as if you were reading a story to Children and pretend you are reading to Children...make it Child friendly and warm. Now replay your recording and see the difference...it won't be perfect, but you are getting there, just practice some more. By the way, no amount of 'Recorder' fiddling nor settings can correct nor impart life to a dull recording ~ thats your job !! Hope this helps, Brian.Conflow.

________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________ Hi Carrie, Welcome to the Forum ~ Now there are a few queries you have raised here and many answers to those ~ but in order of immediate importance...you wish to get your 'Show' to a Client, yes !! O.K, the fastest way of doing this is to upload the Show to:- MediaFire.Com (its Free) and they give you a File Code which you send to your Client, then ask them to 'Log-On' to Media-Fire, punch in the File Code and it downsload immediately. They accept Files up to 100.Mb in size. Other matters, yes you can Post a 'link' on your Web-Site but first make sure that your ISP Provider will accomodate large Files, most don't, and those who do, usually want more money on account of the large File sizes. In regards to 'Outlook'....is that Microsoft-Outlook or Outlook Express, if its the latter you simply click-on the Attachment Button on the top of the Message-Page and it adds your Show to your EMail. (see below). But please consider the 'recipient' who might not wait for 10 minutes to download an EMail Attachment.... There are other Members who can advise about your Web-Page but for the time being I hope the above information will get you out of problems. Media Fire Link:- http://www.mediafire.com/ Best regards, Brian.Conflow.

Hi Tom, Firstly, I wish Ken haden't done that for the reason that I wanted "ALL" to know about the Program and not have it buried under a lot of Post which usually happens ~ No harm done however, as I note there has been some 20 downloads so far...so at least 20 people know about it. Yes it is a nice little Program but it might have escaped your notice that it also makes 'Icons' apart from Avatars. One simply has to reduce the size to 32x32 pixel within the Program Windows provided. The 32x32 size is really a Microsoft-Concept ~ there is little reason to use this concept excepting that all 'Icons' must be 2n multiples of 8.Bits (1.Byte) both in the vertical and horizontal axies. So I am talking about 8.Bit multiplied numerically by:- 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, in that geometric progressiion of 2n. So we have:- 8x8 or 16x16 or 32x32 or 64x64 or 128x128 pixel Icons. The 'odd-ones' out are 48x48 and also 96x96 pixel from the old 8.Bit Computer days and because they suit small Bit-Mapped-Images (BMP's). I hope I haven't gone over your head too much ~ but if you stick to those 'sizes' as GIF's (256 colour) they will work as Icons. Now if you use any type of 'Auto-Run Program' you can use a 'Personalised Icon' to identify your own CD-Disc(s) on the Desktop. Hope this helps and its nice to have a Personalised-Icon as your own specific 'Copyright Mark'. Have fun with it. Brian.Conflow.

Hi All, The subject of making Icons and Avatars crops up on the Forum now and then ~ and yes there are many Image Editors which will do this after a considerable amount of 'fiddling' around and testing and re-testing often ending up in failure. The problems with Icons and Avatars are as follows:- * What 'Size-Format' is needed by various Utilities such as Pte, U-Tube, MySpace, Skype etc,etc. * Those with vision impairments have particular difficulties because of the small sizes of Icons. * Quality control is another problem ~ and conversion to 8.Bit Colour (256 Colour) is another. It would be nice to have a small Utility that does the whole thing 'automatically' yes it exists ! You can choose any suitable Photo or Art Work or Drawing and after reducing this to a managable size, below 800x600 pixel, you can then select the 'chosen' item in that Image and then convert that automatically to an Avatar/Icon with the Program below. The Conflow Avatar was made with it... Screenshot and Link below:- Have fun... Brian.Conflow http://www.snapfiles.com/screenshots/ppgenius.htm