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Lennart, AVG Free 2012 APPEARS to have solved the problem. I'm not getting the problem any more after updating 2012 around noon today. DG

Changes in Slide Duration Version 7.0.1 Part 2 With “Keep Full Slide Duration” un-ticked: Works as you would expect for a V6.5 project. With “Keep Full Slide Duration” ticked: If you add 6 new slides with e.g. 8 seconds duration and 2 seconds transition you will get: Slide 1 transition = 2 sec Slide 1 Duration = 8 sec You must, however allow for the fact that Slide 2 Transition is also included in the Slide 1 Duration Time. If you want 2 sec transition followed by 6 sec time between transitions and the 2 sec transition of slide 2 must stipulate a duration of 10 seconds. If you make changes to single or multiple slides in Customise Slide you get exactly what you ask for: If you e.g. change the duration time and transition time for the first three slides to 12 seconds and three seconds respectively, that’s what you will get. Be aware though that in this example you will not have changed the transition time of slide four. Therefore slide three will be: Incoming transition = 3 seconds. Time between transitions = 7 seconds Outgoing transition = 2 seconds 12 seconds as requested. Moving slides: In my example the last slide would still be 8 seconds duration including the incoming transition of 2 seconds (no outgoing transition). If this slide is moved to become slide 2, it will maintain its 2 second transition time and its 8 second duration time. However the 8 second duration will now include its incoming transition (2 seconds) and the transition time of slide 3 (3 seconds). Therefore the time between transitions for (the new) slide 2 will be 3 seconds. 2 seconds > 3 seconds > 3 seconds = 8 seconds. This will also have an effect on the time between transitions for slide one which will become: 3 seconds > 7 seconds > 2 seconds = 12 seconds The original Slide 5 will become slide 6 and will maintain its 8 seconds duration but have no outgoing transition time. E & OE. DG Once again I would like to state that I am not necessarily endorsing the new Changes in Slide Duration - I am merely trying to explain what you should expect if you use it in conjunction with video.

Harold, You and Ken are both on Windows 7 - coincidence? I updated to version 2012 a few days ago - maybe version 10 has not yet been updated? DG My version of AVG is 2012.0.1831 Database Version: 2090/4545

Ken, I have tried it a second time and it works OK - VISTA. I was also able to run the original file that started the problem off for me without problems. DG

Stu, Please keep an eye on it? It does not happen with me (VISTA) every time and when it does happen closing and restarting PTE cures it. I have opened three or four times this morning and it has only happened once (with a NEW file). DG

I have just updated my AVG created a new show with V7.0.1, published it and all appears to be OK. Anyone else care to confirm or otherwise? DG

If you need to insert video into a show then you will have a problem publishing. If you don't need to insert a video into a show you can still work in V7 but to publish the EXE you need to use V6.5. When you need to Publish EXE open the show in V6.5 and Publish from there. DG

Thanks Phil, I am seeing this on a Vista laptop - I think Jill is XP. DG

Ken, What happens if you transfer a V7 EXE from your W7 to your XP. It will flag it. DG

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Peter, I'm hoping that Igor is working on this V7.0.1 bug while AVG are working on theirs. Just as AVG would sit up and take notice when more and more people declare problems I think the same goes for Igor. You don't have to Publish to see this bug and V7.0.1 can be installed without overwriting V7. Igor also wants feedback on his proposed new options which I am (at present) in favour) of. He hasn't been around much lately. DG

Lack of response could mean that Jill and I are the only ones seeing this? Or is it that Jill and I are the only ones to have installed V7.0.1? DG

Peter, Link not working. You mean this one: DG

I prepared a 1Mb EXE specifically to send to AVG but it failed to send. DG

Mick, Can you make a single image EXE and send that? DG

There appears to be a bug in PTE V7.0.1 whereby on opening the programme it looks OK and the "Keep Full Duration of Slide" tickbox is UNTICKED. If you (without doing anything else) click on VIEW in the MENU the tickbox immediately becomes TICKED. Closing PTE and restarting usually cures the problem and the next time it opens clicking on VIEW does nothing other than open the View Menu. It then (in my case) operates the way that Igor describes. One other person (Jill Kb has seen this behaviour (I'm seeing it on a Vista Laptop - Jill's on an XP M/C). If you can add anything to this please add your experiences here? Positive and negative replies welcomed. Also, IGOR posted V7.0.1 in two posts - thinking that they were different Betas I installed both, with the second one overwriting the first. The current Beta is here: http://www.picturest...dpost__p__89111 Please read the thread to the end - Jill appears to be getting additional problems that I am not seeing. Thanks, DG

Jill, One at atime. I tried your first example. When I opened PTE I got the problem with the Box becoming ticked when I clicked on View so I restarted PTE. OK second time. I duplicated your figures and got 2/7, 2/7, 2/7. Switched to timeline and got 2/7, 2/7, 2/7. Overall time=21 secs. I can't explain it. One thing though - Igor has (I think) put out TWO V7.0.1 Betas - have you got the most recent? DG

Jill, Thanks for the confirmation of weird behaviour. I'll ask Igor what he thinks. You didn't comment on the 3.5 / 4 /3.5 explanation that I gave you? As to the reason for the new timings, all I can say is that I remember someone having a problem with inserting a video and it was stopping incorrectly. Igor saw the new timing system as the only answer to that problem. Like you I don't claim to understand the reason for it, but I think that I understand how the new system works. NOW, Can you give me a single example of the unpredictable result you are getting when moving slides so that we can talk about that? DG Predictability: Example – moving slide 8 to become the new slide 2. With KEEP FULL SLIDE DURATION ticked. If you move the slide then the following circumstances are PREDICTABLE. The incoming transition of original slide 8 (new slide 2) will become the outgoing transition of slide 1. (Slide 1 will maintain its original incoming transition time and overall duration which will now include the incoming transition time of the new slide 2/ old slide 8) The new slide 2 (old slide 8) will maintain its original incoming transition and duration but its outgoing transition will be the incoming transition of the original slide 2 (new slide 3). The new slide 8 (old slide 7) will now maintain its original incoming transition time and duration but its outgoing transition will be the incoming transition of the original slide 9. (If the original slide 8 was the original last slide then the original slide 7 will now become the last slide (slide 8) and therefore have no outgoing transition time). Please remember that this is not written in support of the new V7 timings but rather as an explanation of how it works. DG

Daniel, You said: "new problems : - open a new project - option unticked - drag and drop 3 slides - 2/7 2/7 2/7 - Via project options I specify new values 4/9 it comes - 4/9 4/9 4/9 then I've ticked the option, it comes : - 4/5 4/5 4/9 That is OK except that the slide duration indicated in the Customize Slide window is not in line with the slide duration specified in Project Options which is not logical and will be misleading" I took this to mean that you changed the status of the "Keep Full Slide Duration" during your trial project. DG

Jill, Try something for me? Close computer and rstart. Open PTE (7.0.1) - add a few slides - make some changes (Keep Full Slide Duration unticked) - click on VIEW and watch what happens to the "Keep Full Slide Duration" tick box. SOMETIMES when I click on VIEW the "Keep Full Slide Duration" goes from unticked to ticked. Close PTE and re-open and then it runs as expected. That was the WIERD circumstance that I had this morning and I have managed to recreate it. It is as though it needs to be opened - closed - restarted before it will run properly? Your 3.5 / 4 / 3.5 is unrealistic - the duration MUST be longer than the transition in the V7.0.1 format otherwise you don't get any duration. The slide time MUST include two transition times and your transition times added together are greater than the slide duration. 3.5 / 8 / 3.5 will give you 1 second between transitions. DG

Peter, I tried that lat evening and agree. That's possibly the nature of a false positive? DG

Daniel, I believe that the intended use for the KEEP FULL SLIDE DURATION option is that you start a new project with one or the other option and DO NOT ALTER IT! Why would you alter it? By altering it you are CREATING a logic problem. DG

I had a wierd situation earlier this morning where things were different to the way they were last evening. However, I have closed PTE and re-opened and now can't replicate the "problem". When I start a new project with "KEEP FULL SLIDE DURATION" unticked and settings of 8 sec duration and 1.5 sec transition I get the "standard" V6,5 configuration where 6 slides = 48 seconds and only one transition is included per 8 sec slide. When I start a new project with "KEEP FULL SLIDE DURATION" ticked and settings of 8 sec duration and 1.5 sec transition I get the V7 configuration where 6 slides = 40.5 seconds and both transitions are included per 8 sec slide. If I now go to Customize slide and ask for 8 sec duration and no transition, that's what I get - 6 slides = 48 sec. Sorry for the confusion above. Previous advice still holds ( I think!!) - DO NOT change the status of the "Keep Full Slide Duration" mid stream - it should be either OFF or ON depending on your project. DG

Peter, Igor suggests that we report it to speed things up. Never done that. HOW? DG

Jill, It was late last evening and I have now tried it again. Something is NOT right. It will take me a while to sort out just what is not right but when I checked again this morning the aspect that concerned me (the timing anomaly) has been corrected. In a 1.5 / 5 / 1.5 situation, when I ask for 8 sec duration and no transition, that's what I get. DG