Lin Evans Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Hi Dave,Yes, there's lots to "digest" when getting into non-square constructions - sometimes one gets surprised even when they "think" they have it figured out - LOL. Experimenting make one even more appreciate the things that JPD was able to accomplish with PTE. I wish I had a tenth of his ability to project a thought and create a concrete representational pattern of the idea. The ability to see multi-dimensional seems to be a gift few are fortunate enough to possess. The rendering was just a thought for some possible variations for your template. That one I created in Photoshop, but I think there are a number of them which can be freely downloaded and used to dress up the possible "skins" for some sophisticated frames.Best regards,Lin Thanks Lin,I have been trying to get a grip on the mathematical relationship between the Pan Z control and the elements it is being applied to.I now see that the Pan Z parameter is a function of the PARENT in a Parent Child group. It's 100% value refers to the Width or Height of the Parent be it a Frame or another Object and that's an important thing to know when the object that you are building is not a perfect cube and has transparency as in the case of a photo frame. It is also important to SIZE a frame when starting something like this rather than accept a frame which is the same resolution as the project.Thanks for the renderings which you sent in the PM - I will look into that! It wasn't what I was really setting out to achieve but it is the next logical step if I continue with the project.DG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Cox Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Ken,I just uploaded this file to www.virustotal.com online service which can check files using several dozens of different antiviruses. It found nothing. Please re-download the file again. Probably your AVG antivirus settings have the highest level of sensitivity?IGORran original thru virustotal tested ok as it did you redownloaded Daves file on the system that detected it and it ran ok - who knows what went onmy anti virus is set to default settingsbetter safe than sorryken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegee Posted May 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Hi Lin,It looks as though it's just you and I?Here's my penultimate post on the subject - I've added a texture to the sides and fiddled about a bit with it.Single slide repeated until esc is pressed.Best viewed on 1920x1080/1200 monitor.DGNew Thin Frame.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegee Posted May 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Why did no one mention "nested frames"?Pan Z is then not required.DG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ContaxMan Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 You're not completely alone! I'm lurking in the background; trying (and failing) to follow how this splendid effect works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegee Posted May 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Ask a question Roger.DG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ContaxMan Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 "nested frames"?Pan Z is then not required. - I'd welcome a bit more explanation as to how this/these works/work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegee Posted May 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 I'll try.I was using "folded box" construction to make the frame. It's my prefered method and I posted it a few years ago as the "Rose Cross" (inspired by Dan Brown). It works well for regular cubes!!When I wanted to create the offset required to make the frame rotate around its central axis I was having to use Pan Z to acheive it but when the sides and front/back of an object are of different sizes the calculation of how much Pan Z to use becomes a little un-straightforward.I later realised that using what I call "nested frames" was much easier for this application (photo frame).I have used four frames in total to create the 1200x900 Photo Frame.A "Rotation Frame" or Master Frame to do the animation (this can be the same res as the project).I've added a child frame (60x900) to this at 90 degrees which controls the Front and Back. The top and bottom are attached to the front.I then added a child frame (1200x900) to the 60x900 frame at -90 degrees to control the sides.A further 900x600 frame is added to the 60x900 frame to hold the inside faces of the cutout. 900x600 (3:2) images can be added directly to this.All faces are Show FRONT Side only.The image in the frame could be changed by ending a slide with the frame at 90 degrees to the viewer and beginning a new slide the same way.I will probably use it in a Start or Title sequence.Modified Template attached.DGNew thin frame.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fh1805 Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 ...Modified Template attached...Dave,What you attached was the zipped EXE file. The Template would be much more useful!regards,Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lin Evans Posted May 25, 2011 Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Hi Peter,Scroll up about seven or eight posts and you will find the template.Best regards,LinDave,What you attached was the zipped EXE file. The Template would be much more useful!regards,Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegee Posted May 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2011 Hi Peter,Please check that you have opened the right one?Unfortunately the attachments in posts 28 and 33 have the same name but the one in #33 IS a TEMPLATE wheras the one in #28 is an EXE.The file size and end result also differ.DG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheilaG Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Hi Everyone and, in particular, Dave who started this thread.I'd been too busy playing with cubes and pyramids to think about how to construct a cuboid or picture frame. Then I began reading these posts and became hooked, yet again! A big 'thank you' for providing all the shortcuts to getting started and for the discussions between all of you on the 'pros and cons' of how things might work differently/better.The 'women's work' will have to wait yet again! Regards,Sheila G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ContaxMan Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Thanks for your very helpful explanation Dave - it's much appreciated & I'll study it in conjunction with the template you kindly provided.Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulcl Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 I have only just started making AVs and I find that this subject is a bit beyond me. I have followed the instructions on how to make a cube and have succeded in completing one. However where can i find info on how to get the cube free floating. You help would be appreciated.RegardsPaul Claridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fh1805 Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Paul,If you haven't already done so, place your cube assembly as a child of a Frame parent. Then, with the Frame object selected in the Objects list of the O&A window, go to the Animation tab and click on "3D parameters". Experiment with some Rotate X and Rotate Y values between two keyframes.regards,Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulcl Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I have redone my cube and it is working perfectly. How do I place the cube assembly into a parent frame as a child. I think that I understand the last bit.Going to the pub now as my brain hurts and inane banter may sort it out.He HePaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegee Posted May 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Save your project.In O&A and with NOTHING selected (Click outside the Slide area) - Click on ADD FRAME in the Menu.Select all of the original objects in your Cube Assembly project and COPY.Right click on the newly created FRAME and PASTE.Delete all of the original objects.You are left with the New Frame with the Cube Assembly as a Child of the New Frame.Creating a Grandparent Frame would work the same way.DG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lin Evans Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Hi Dave,Typo - I think you meant "left click" on the newly created frame to select it then right click to paste ....Best regards,Lin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegee Posted May 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 Hi Lin,Right clicking once on an object will both select it and bring up a contextual menu (on my machine).Could be something in the setup?Please note Lin's remarks.DG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fh1805 Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 That's what right-clicks do on my system, too!Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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