morturn Posted July 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Once upon a time I was a Photoshop user and I seem to remember a feature which allowed you to "Extract Video Frames to Layers".Using this you could extract X number of frames from a video clip at a specified interval.I don't know how feasible it would be to extract the necessary frames and export them in a way in which they could be used to produce a similar effect??I think that IF it were possible it would mean far less wear and tear on a DSLR shutter? Shoot 15fps and extract one out of every 15?Any Photoshop users able to comment? Is there a limit on the number of layers? Could the Layers then be automatically saved as individual JPEGs?DGDaveThat does seem to work, have just tested it on a short piece of video file. How it will work with very many layer to export I do not yet know, but it worth a go.This is the article http://www.designeasy.co/2012/12/extract-images-from-video-clips-in.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRR Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Way to find it Morturn. I loaded a video and looked for the option, but the link you gave certainly works.ThanksThe maximum number of layers seems to be 8,000 (but it's not recommended...https://forums.adobe.com/thread/891804?tstart=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom95521 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Hi Lin it's a Panasonic FZ150 Bridge, now over 2 years old & superseded by the FZ200 or maybe a newer one still. I've been in touch a couple of time with Panasonic suggesting add ons or improvements but they aren't interested. I'm still of the opinion the "burst" feature is the way to go with this camera, maybe Tom knows, he had the same camera.EricYachtsman1 tl3.jpgHi Eric,You can buy a intervalometer type device for your FZ-150 camera. I might buy one myself since it's higher quality than my security camera.Here is one that is not too expensive.http://www.amazon.com/Professional-Control-PANASONIC-MagicFiber-Microfiber/dp/B0049IOPFK/Just have to figure out how to join all the .jpg files into a video. I think I can do it with ffmpeg command line and probably Quicktime Pro.Not sure if I want to buy/rent Adobe. It would be nice if PTE had a multiple jpg to video converter. I know I could make separate slides with short duration but the slideshow would be very big.Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lin Evans Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Hi Tom,There are literally dozens of free jpg to video converters available. Best regards,Lin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRR Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Hi Eric,You can buy a intervalometer type device for your FZ-150 camera. I might buy one myself since it's higher quality than my security camera.Here is one that is not too expensive.http://www.amazon.com/Professional-Control-PANASONIC-MagicFiber-Microfiber/dp/B0049IOPFK/Just have to figure out how to join all the .jpg files into a video. I think I can do it with ffmpeg command line and probably Quicktime Pro.Not sure if I want to buy/rent Adobe. It would be nice if PTE had a multiple jpg to video converter. I know I could make separate slides with short duration but the slideshow would be very big.TomTom:"way back when" (PTE ver 3?) I did make a "time lapse" of sorts a very rudimentary one of Bumble Bees in tune to the Flight of the Bumble Bees. I used very small files (about 50kb) , 275 in one minute.PTE barely coped with it, but it did run.I expect PTE 8 is somewhat more robust ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom95521 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Hi Lin,Ordered the intervalometer for my FZ-150. Also AC battery adapter so I can really long time lapse.FFmpeg command line will do what I want until I get more experience.http://andrius.miasnikovas.lt/2013/01/quick-tip-easy-time-lapse-videos-with-ffmpeg/Thanks,Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom95521 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Tom:"way back when" (PTE ver 3?) I did make a "time lapse" of sorts a very rudimentary one of Bumble Bees in tune to the Flight of the Bumble Bees. I used very small files (about 50kb) , 275 in one minute.PTE barely coped with it, but it did run.I expect PTE 8 is somewhat more robust ! Hi Jim,Yes. Importing video in PTE 8 makes it much easier to create time lapse.Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yachtsman1 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Hi Eric,You can buy a intervalometer type device for your FZ-150 camera. I might buy one myself since it's higher quality than my security camera.Here is one that is not too expensive.http://www.amazon.com/Professional-Control-PANASONIC-MagicFiber-Microfiber/dp/B0049IOPFK/Just have to figure out how to join all the .jpg files into a video. I think I can do it with ffmpeg command line and probably Quicktime Pro.Not sure if I want to buy/rent Adobe. It would be nice if PTE had a multiple jpg to video converter. I know I could make separate slides with short duration but the slideshow would be very big.TomHi TomChecked out Amazon UK but the one I found isn't exactly the same as yours?BTW anyone know the difference between time lapse & stop motion, we really should start a new thread for this.http://www.amazon.co.uk/JJC-TM-D-Multi-Function-Panasonic-Cameras-/dp/B00I42JRZU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405202372&sr=8-1&keywords=Remote+Control+Shutter+for+PANASONICRegards EricYachtsman1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morturn Posted July 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Time-lapse is a series of photographs at pre determined intervals, stop motion is animated objects, that are photographed, then moved ever so slightly, then photographed again. the film is then played at normal speed. Wallis and Gromett are typical stop motion films.I have done this in PTE and it works remarkable well, ill try and dig it out.OK have found this now and uploaded it to slidshow club. So it seems I can upload, Ill give my time-lapse a try now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRR Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Time-lapse is a series of photographs at pre determined intervals, stop motion is animated objects, that are photographed, then moved ever so slightly, then photographed again. the film is then played at normal speed. Wallis and Gromett are typical stop motion films.I have done this in PTE and it works remarkable well, ill try and did it out.Moturn, I guess mine was more "Stop motion", a very rudimentary one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yachtsman1 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Time-lapse is a series of photographs at pre determined intervals, stop motion is animated objects, that are photographed, then moved ever so slightly, then photographed again. the film is then played at normal speed. Wallis and Gromett are typical stop motion films.I have done this in PTE and it works remarkable well, ill try and did it out.Thanks, I understand now.TomI traced the manufacturer of the item from Amazon & checked their web site, they mention the FZ100 but not the FZ150. I know your add said 150 but AUK doesn't. The link to the manufacturer is http://www.jjc.cc/products_info.asp?id=62&cid=0&pid=1&s_series=TMSeriesRegards EricYachtsman1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lin Evans Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 My manufacturer, Harbortronics in Fort Collins sent me this:=====================Hi Lin,Nice to hear from you! Ahhh, the good-ol CP990.... one of my favorite cameras of all time.The FZ150 does appear to have a shutter release connection, and we can make a cable to control it from our DigiSnap controllers. I have to be honest though, for short term time-lapse (i.e. a day), there are some really cheap chinese intervalometers that would work fine, and cost next to nothing. Our niche is now long term time-lapse, where the DigiSnap has some advantages.All the best,Mark==================With that said - I think you can rest assured that the one Tom points to will work fine with your camera. Best regards,Lin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morturn Posted July 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Ok, well I still cannot upload this show to Slideshow Club, so for the time being, I have uploaded it to dropbox This is the link; https://www.dropbox.com/s/tpljaw7czz2evdd/In%20and%20%20around%20Birmingham.zip Enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom95521 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Thanks, I understand now.TomI traced the manufacturer of the item from Amazon & checked their web site, they mention the FZ100 but not the FZ150. I know your add said 150 but AUK doesn't. The link to the manufacturer is http://www.jjc.cc/products_info.asp?id=62&cid=0&pid=1&s_series=TMSeriesRegards EricYachtsman1.Hi Eric,It looks the same to me. On the amazon.com site it mentions the FZ-150.http://www.amazon.com/JJC-TM-D-Multi-Function-Control-Panasonic/dp/B00I42JRZUTom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lin Evans Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 It has a shutter release connection - that's all that's necessary. The intervalometer simply actuates that release as programmed. To be compatible the camera simply has to have the release.You might want to check with Panasonic or check your documentation and see about the type of shutter on your camera. My first impression is that it has both a mechanical and electronic shutter. It has to have an electronic shutter to do video, but whether that shutter can be actuated for stills and if so at what aperture, etc., are relevant questions to avoid undue wear and tear. I "think" you can select the electronic shutter or mechanical shutter. If so, then you will definitely want to use the electronic shutter for time lapse photography.Regards,Lin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yachtsman1 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Hi LinWhen I moved from DSLR I first bought a Canon bridge, but I wasn't happy with it sent it back to Amazon & bought the Panasonic, which Tom had just got one & showed some good quality video. I also bought a cheepo Chinese wired shutter release despite lots of warnings of mixed results, the worst being the connection to the camera falling apart & becoming jammed in the camera socket. This morning I have checked out my cheepo release which I haven't used for over 12 months & it has a mini jack connection, so it would appear to be similar to Tom's find but without the multi-function timer arrangement, I has a simple press or press & slide button which I assume is similar to "bulb" on a conventional DSLR. The times I have used my release, it operated OK, but whether it operates a mechanical or electronic shutter I don't know, however as it is possible to turn off the shutter noise I would assume it's purely electronic. One of the reasons it hasn't had much use, it doesn't operate the video record. When bought it there was a series of Youtube tutorials by Graham Houghton on its use & he advocated glueing a small false jewel to the video button which is recessed below the body & difficult to operate, which I did, but it fell off after a few operations, as did the other mod I made which was a home made eye-cup to prevent my specs being scratched by the hard surface surrounding the electronic viewfinder. Both of these ideas I passed on to Panasonic, but have obviously fell on deaf ears as the FZ200 which a neighbour has, came out without them. My wife's Fuji SL1000 has a soft eyepiece. I look forward to Toms report on his buy but fear it may not operate the video function on the FZ150 .EricYachtsman1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom95521 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Hi Eric,The FZ150 does have a video miniature effect mode that speeds up video 10 x normal. Probably better for shutter too since it's electronic. I should have the intervalometer in a week or two.Youtube has plenty of examples.Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yachtsman1 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Hi TomThat looks pretty good, if a little fast, don't know if it's adjustable? I also keep meaning to try the High Speed video which records at 220 FPS which I believe produces slow motion action when run through at normal speed, think it's used to analyse golf shots. Did you find if your timer operates the video function on the FZ150?Regards EricYachtsman1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yachtsman1 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Just have to figure out how to join all the .jpg files into a video.TomHi TomCheck your manual,"• Motion pictures will be recorded in the Motion JPEG format. Use the “QuickTime” or“PHOTOfunSTUDIO” software on the CD-ROM (supplied) to play back motion pictures on acomputer.• Audio is not recorded.• Motion picture can be recorded continuously for up to 2 GB.• The focus, zoom, exposure and White Balance is fixed to the value at the beginning of therecording motion picture.• Under fluorescent lighting, flicker or horizontal bars may be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yachtsman1 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 . Did you find if your timer operates the video function on the FZ150?Regards EricYachtsman1.Just checked my wired remote again, & it will operate the video function if you set the mode dial to video. Yachtsman1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yachtsman1 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Hi Tom I also keep meaning to try the High Speed video which records at 220 FPS which I believe produces slow motion action when run through at normal speed, think it's used to analyse golf shots.Found a demo of HS video on Youtubefrom the FZ150 & wasn't very impressed, the slow motion function in Video Pad seemed to give better results, however my free VP has expired so until I can find something similar for free, I will KC&CO, or as they said in WW2 Keep calm & carry on. Yachtsman1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom95521 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 I tried the FZ150 miniature video mode today. It has an integrated tilt-shift (blur) feature that can be adjusted but not completely eliminated (as far as I can tell). A couple things I have noticed. It takes a long time to capture video. Approximately 10 minutes for every 1 minute of video. Also it is important to have a steady tripod. And smooth pan is very difficult. I think it has potential for clouds and looking down long sections of road where there is a lot of motion.Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cottage Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Ok, well I still cannot upload this show to Slideshow Club, so for the time being, I have uploaded it to dropbox This is the link; https://www.dropbox.com/s/tpljaw7czz2evdd/In%20and%20%20around%20Birmingham.zip EnjoyDavid,I also tried uploading your show to slideshowclub and it failed twice. We will have to investigate what is going on. The system should accept files of around 225 MB with no issues.Stay tuned,Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morturn Posted July 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Hi BillOk thanks for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yachtsman1 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Tom & anyone else interested in this off shoot.Got a reply from the timer company this morning.Q:Hi could you advise if the JJC TM-D Multi-Function Timer Remote Control is compatible with the Panasonic FZ150.A:Dear Eric,Thank you for being interested in our product. Our TM-D is compatible with the Panasonic FZ150. If you have any questions else, please feel free to contact us.------------------Best Regards,Phoebe Lee Customer Service Department www.jjc.ccwww.kiwifotos.comShenzhen JinJiaCheng Photography Equipment Co., Ltd.Regards EricYachtsman1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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