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John: IMHO, both are essentially correct and the same IF properly calibrated A properly done calibration is only good if the computer/projector combination are being used in the same lighting conditions as the were present when the calibration was done. A change in the the screen, or the ambient light, or the age of the projector bulb, even the wall colours, etc may affect the appearence of the projected image. Obviously substitute a different computer to the same projector will not give you an accurate display without a new calibration with the new computer, either a MAC or a PC) I am a PC user, but I was part of a recent e-mail discussion recently that dealt with a question close to yours. One person reported that their individual images, to be printed, looked very murky on a MAC vs a PC. Another person reported using an uncalibrated projector/Mac combination did not display their as well as an uncalibrated PC/same projector combination. To my limited knowledge it sounded more like a calibration issue in terms of the projector issue. Simply put the PC default output worked better than the MAC. But note I said NEITHER had been calibrated. Here is a note we received from a MAC user in response to the issue: There are a number of issues at play. 1 - Macs and PCs have historically used a different gamma see here which means that (without adjustment) images can appear darker on a Mac or washed out on a PC. With the last release of the Mac OS this year, the default Mac has been changed to 2.2, the same as PCs. Over the next year as most Mac users upgrade this issue will disappear. 2 - Color management is handled differently. On the Mac it is at the operating system level, with its management encoded in any images or presentations developed (this is the reason every pre-press group uses Macs or colorsync on the PC). The color management is futher complicated by RGB, sRGB, Adobe RGB ... 3 - Projectors have a very limited color space compared to most displays, and those color spaces vary as the projector warms up, and as the bulb ages. 4 - DVI vs VGA connections make a difference on how the digital to analog conversion is done. Doing a calibration for the Mac on any display is relatively straight forward (for non pre press requirements) since the OS allows for software calibration. Looking at images or videos prepared on the Mac on the PC or vice versa is more problematic, though the issue is more viewing the images on multiple computers. Apple has a built in color management profiles that can be imbedded in photos or videos, and are readably by Safari or Chrome. There is no equivalent on the PC. An sRGB color space limits the problem, though the difference in calibration of monitors can still make a significant difference. The closest solution for stills is sRGB because it is the smallest color space. In our case there was a possibility of having MAC and PC prepared shows presented at the same venue. The advice for that was: For a presentation that is going to use both a Mac and PC the steps would be: - calibrate the projector for the PC since it requires adjusting the projector, - then do the software calibration on the Mac leaving the projector unchanged. This should give more than reasonable results on both computers, up to the capabilities of the projector. The Mac and PC should use two different connections to the projector in order to ensure that the calibrations are not changed.

I have used PTE many times as a manual show with the navigation bar in view to allow the viewer to interact to some extent, but if you want to be able to pull up two or more images onto the screen randomly at the same time for comparison, no it can't do that. I suppose you could set that up to limited extent by making up slides with 2 or 3 images up at the same time beforehand and having them as part of the show. Your clients could navigate to them via the navigation bar. Another way, would be to have them go through the images one by one, and then have a slide with objects that would take them to (and return from) additional pages that have the various combination and permutations that you think they might want to compare. Just thinking out loud Added later: On re-thinking, my last suggestion might not work as you wanted this as a DVD and I am not sure you could do this via DVD. Maybe you can, but I don't know. You certainly can with the normal exe file production.

My PTE workflow always has me adding a black slide at start of each show, then I add the images I want to use and then put a black slide at the end as well. Black slide is made same size as my other slides, just with a black background. After adding the slides to be used, I then I work up the title and credit slides. I often, but not always use a slide from the show for the title and credit slides. I put the text in via PhotoShop because "I have always done it that way" :) but it can be done within PTE using the text in Objects and Animation. Re how to handle the length of music vs the number of slides... I assume the music came after the images ? i.e. you didn't choose the music before choosing the slides. In that case I assume you want to (feel you HAVE to) use all 80 images. Then you will need to find another complementary piece of music and combine the two in a sound editing software (Many people here use AUDACITY which is free, but there are other software as well) If the music is just marginally short, I have been known to stretch music up to 5% to make it fit the situation (do that in the sound editing software) If the music came first and is KEY, then you have to get tough with yourself and edit the number of images down more. That can be very tough as each picture means something to you and often has a story, how can I drop it ? That is the joy of photo editing. Bottom line: "LESS is MORE", "Leave your audience wanting more" (not feeling that they have seen all your pictures and will never ask you again to show images)

Ray: You might want to check the link again It didn't take me to the Puzzle, took me elsewhere

Dom: Great shots and nicely displayed. As Lin says, a nice use of PTE Merci beaucoup.

There has been at least one lengthy discussion re the quality of jpg one should use in the images for PTE. There is, of course, no one right answer as it is a very subjective issue. Amongst other things it depends on how the AV will be presented (computer screen vs projector), how large an .exe file you are prepared to work with, etc etc There is a very good demonstration of the differences between the quality settings: here in UTUBE You will see the differences are quite subtle.

Hi Colin: 2.8mb sounds as though the images were straight out of the camera. PTE can handle that most times (unless doing a lot of animation etc), but as you found out the issue is with sharing your show. The file just gets too big. We all have different rules, but I use images at about 500kb, lots of folks use smaller ones. Not sure if your Microsft Office Picture Manager would have allowed you to re-size the images in the same folder keeping the same name. If it does next time you won't need to copy the show. So long as the file names don't change PTE will just go with the files as reduced. You might want to do a zip back-up before doing that just in case the names somehow do get changed. Just a thought

So near and yet so far...... BTW there is a software update for the Camera you might want to check into Dom when you get it back

Dom: I am looking forward to your creations with the new "toy" both in still and video photographs. I suspect that Igor will be bring video clips to PTE sooner than he had perhaps originally planned on.

Peter: Amazing!! WOW!! I hate to think what the next challenge will be ! Thank you for doing this

Peter: All I can say is WOW !!!!! Congratulations

Jimbob: Attach one of your MP3 files to a posting on the forum and some of us can take a look at it for you. I seem to recall that itune files need to be converted before they can be used, but don't quote me on that. New edit at 7:26am: Jimbob see here for file types permitted

Carol (and Fersigo) I realize that you have already switched away from AVG Anti-virus, but for others using AVG and finding it slow opening .exe files, see: here See postings #8, 10, 12, 13

Manfred: You could use PROJECT OPTIONS > ADVANCED > MOUSE BUTTONS > Left - pause > Right - next slide That will let you use a mouse to control, and with a wireless mouse, the control could be done from a distance

A simple question (too simple perhaps) when you made the changes to the show did you save the project again ? I am not sure how you could not save it again, unless you never closed the window. Does the .pte file have a new date on it ? BTW are you the "real" birdsasart ? (Not saying that you are not real, just that "birdsasart" is used by rather well internationally known photographer/instructor.

Dom: Most of my shooting is Nature (Wildlife or Macro) as well as some scenery and occasionally people. All my lenses are Canon (that I have acquired over the past 2-5 years): 10-22mm (EFS lens, can not be used on full frame cameras) 24-105mm (L lens) 100mm macro (I am thinking of buying the 60mm EFS macro in its place) 70-300mm (don't get the 75-300mm it is an inferior lens) 100-400mm (L lens) plus a set of non-Canon extension tubes. The 24-105mm tends to be my main lens for around town, point and shoot etc. For nature shooting (birds/animals) I use the 100-400/70-300mm and the macro. I don't have experience with the 18-270mm Tamron, but an "all in one" lens like that would be nice as you say. I tend to put the 100-400mm or the 70-300mm lens on one body and the 24-105mm lens on another body if I think I am going to be changing lenses frequently. Saves time and keeps dust off the sensor. Plus ensures I have my back-up body with me. That gives me the same range (and more) as the 28-270mm, but at more weight and cost !!

Now that at least one person has confirmed the issue I mentioned in the PTE general forum it would be nice to see this resolved in future versions. It would not be an urgent "fix", but a "nice to have" fix

Peter/Dom You two amaze me with the ease (although I know it was not "ease" so maybe I should say how quickly )you put those Rubik's cube demos together. I know I need to crank up my creativity to be able to use just some of the new functionality in PTE effectively

Dom: Again I am no expert with video (wouldn't even call myself a beginner) You might want to Google for Canon 7D reviews, one is here: dpreviews but it is more of a description of what camera settings are available. You may have to wait for more informed reviews. I shot a short video the day just to try it, but my PC couldn't handle it. The video spluttered its way through. I shot at the max size 1920x1080, 30fps. Obviously until I get an upgraded PC, I will have to reduce the parameters. I know your computer won't have that problem. It sure was a nice sharp (spluttering) image though. But again you are better to talk to people who know video

My PC is operating on XP and I am using PTE ver 5.60 I was using the "Hawk Method" see FAQ forum when I discovered that I could not fully copy selected collections of files when I was using CTRL + SHIFT + left click to add to an existing collection. I lost the previously selected collection and was left with only the latest grouping of contiguous slides that I was trying to add to the collection. Actually I was left with one less slide than I was trying to add, the one at the end of the intended selection. I verified that I could do this in Windows Explorer/Explore to make sure I was not expecting too much. I was successful in Windows XP Explorer/Explore. To fully explain: I use CNTRL left click to make a collection of individual slides in PTE (or EXPLORE in Windows) I use SHIFT left click to select a contiguous grouping of slides in PTE (or EXPLORE in Windows) In EXPLORE when I use CNTRL left click to make a collection of files and then want to add an additional grouping of contiguous files, I keep the CNTRL key down and also hold the SHIFT key when left clicking and all the files I want are selected. But in PTE, I lose the first collection and actually lose the last one of the intended selected grouping. The same characteristic is there in PTE ver 4.48. I have not tried it in ver 6 beta. It is not a major issue, but it slows down copying selected images from one sequence at another

Dom: Both my wife and I recently bought the 7D Not so much for the movie mode (I am still using very little animation in PTE and am really not into video) but more a replacement to our older Canon dSLR back-up cameras (a 10D and 20D) We each have a 30D which now become our back up cameras. I am NOT knowledgeable re Video, but since you mentioned the cost of the 7D (It isn't a cheap camera) you might want to look at a unit that Ed Overstreet mentioned on our Camera Club Forum here

Xaver: Not answering on behalf of Ed, but as I have been involved with the original posting to this thread, I thought I would add my two cents worth. PTE is the centre of the universe for some :rolleyes: We all have our own biases. Based on experience we have had with other software, PTE rises above the others. But I recognize that some of that is a function of the producer, not the software. My wife has done a number of very nice shows with software that produces .avi files. I know the Canadian distributor of the software you mentioned, and I have seen many wonderful shows from the software, but if people think they have computer requirement problems with PTE, it is somewhat worse for the "normal" producer with that software.

Barry: I know exactly what you mean about shows being jerky when shown at judging (and other places) PSG we have found is frequently the most guilty of this. But even for PTE, the projector can also create problems (this has been discussed at great length in another forum posting), but most frequently it is the computer running the shows. To my mind AV producers should always check out the computer/projector combo their shows are going to be shown on ahead of time if they are to be presented publicly. That is one reason I am still back in the dark ages using bare animations if any at all. Where possible I try to only show my AVs on my own equipment (laptop/projector) or at least on equipment I know and trust. Of course the fact that my creativity does not extend much beyond bare animations is part of this equation :D , but I have seen enough other examples to suggest always testing out shows ahead if possible.

John: It has happened to me a few times as well In my case I always traced it to have created the file with some rogue frequency. Once I corrected it back to 44,100HZ everything worked fine. Can't promise you will as a simple a solution though

If I remember correctly, go to EXPLORE > TOOLS > OPTIONS >VIEW and ensure that "hide extensions for known file types" is turned off. The file extensions will then show. You can then rename the extension to whatever you want (only for the purpose of sending a file - it has to be changed back to its proper name to be opened and used