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I agree Peter ! Hopefully we will see it one day

Igor: Are you hinting here that we should be recreating our old PTE shows in the latest version of windows ? If not we risk losing our shows ? I realize that going forward we risk losing the possibility of accessing many old files as computers change - data CDs might not be readable, (remember floppes ? ) file types no longer readable, etc etc, but I was hoping .exe file would be readable for a good period of time Thanks

I think there is something associated with what side of the bed one gets up on...... I opened PhotoShop (CS3) this morning (I had closed it down last night) tried the EDIT > PURGE > (I chose CLIPBOARD) and have made 6 layers in PhotoShop, three using GADWIN and three using PRINT SCREEN of an O&A screen. Last night I couldn't do more than one....... So maybe the EDIT>PURGE worked, but I would have thought I would have to use it each time... Computers......Love 'em (but usually it is the human operator)

Strange Ed Whether I use SHIFT PRINT SCREEN of just PRINT SCREEN I can not capture the O&A window (XP SP2) even if it is open in a partial screen (i.e. less than full screen mode) Gadwin worked for the first time capturing the O&A window - that was how I made the jpg I posted above. Now it won't do it ARRRGH !!!! Glad the other way of having GADWIN write the file to a designated folder works !!

I used to use PRINT SCREEN a lot, but then I had to have PhotoSHop open to copy it to and save the file as a jpg before putting it in a document Now I tend to use Gadwin systems PRINT SCREEN software here and unless I want to draw circles etc around aspect of the image, I can paste it right into the document If I want to do circles etc, I paste the saved "image" into Photoshop and do the regular work there. Using this software, I can select only the part of the screen I want to copy I just tried it in the O&A screen and it worked fine, see below. In this case I brought it into PhotoShop and made it a jpg

Thanks Peter and Xaver I though it had to do with Power Saver and maybe screen saver as a running PTE AV show does not "register" as the computer doing anything and unless I set the laptop to Presentation, or set my power saving settings to a longer time, the screen goes blank, but the show continues. Not that I would expect to ALT-TAB while a show is running, I'll turn that function on in the future

Hawk: Thanks for the tip re the file names. I embarrassingly posted that request as somehting for a new version (to bring it back) and someone very nicely pointed at the same settings you did to give me what I wanted. I hung my head in shame....

Oops !!! Yes that is what I meant. Missed it !! I'll go hide my head in shame Thank you

I realize it is a question of what one is used to, but in ver 5 the file pane does not provide for a listing of the file names. There are certainly advantages in having the thumbnail view, and I use it. But once the files are selected I find the thumbnail view very distracting, especially with the problem re Auto Scroll 2 (see Auto scroll 2 oddity It would be nice if ver 5 had the option that was available in ver 4 and before. See screen shot below I suspect there would not be a high demand for this, but if it is an easy fix, maybe it could be put back in as an option thanks

Ralph: Thanks Yes that does solve it, although I guess I would call it a "workaround" as I prefer working with a larger mini-player. (yes compared to ver 4 the mini player reduced the way you have is much better, but "give me an inch and I want a mile" Again it is a matter of getting used to something. If there is no fix on this from Igor then I have to decide amongst: - Auto Scroll 1 - much reduced mini player screen with Auto scroll 2 - reduce the acceleration settings under PROPERITIES > SETTINGS> ADVANCED Below is the screen I like to work with (sure would be nice to have the "old" option of having the file names only in the file window pane !

Peter: Yes it would be nice to have all those options you suggest. (Adobe Premiere, another video based program, has somewhat similar features) Like John I do a lot of shows with voice sound bites, sound effects and multi music tracks. I have learned to work around the absence of the options you have suggested, by putting the sound bites/effects attached to individual slides and running the mixed music tracks through the Music TAB. I then add/remove silence from the sound bites to get them placed where I want with each applicable slide. When I have everything synched, I multi track the sound bites/effects with the music track using the time from the PTE timeline where the applicable slide starts. Finally I then reduce the music track behind the sound bites It is a lot of to'ing and fro'ing between PTE and the sound editor..... Your suggestion would help

From what little playing I have done in 5.6, I will gladly second what Peter and Ed are saying

Anthony: In reality there is no real benefit of Scroll 1 vs Scroll 2, except Scroll 2 was on offer from a long time ago and I got used to it and I like it. If it had never been offered I would never be the wiser. (Of course the same would apply to all the users who like Scroll 1, if it had not been on offer, they would be used to using scroll 2. ) It is all what you get used to, but yes you can teach an old dog (me) new tricks and I can learn to live with Scroll 1 only, but not until I have a kick at the cat at keeping scroll 2. (Too many animals in here ) Hawk mentioned : It does for first 4 slides before hesitation starts ? I find the hesitation started halfway down the timeline. ie, if the timeline showed 62 seconds of width, the blue triangle flowed smoothly until it reach the 31 second mark and then the hesitation started, and when it got 31 seconds from the end, it smoothed out again. If I zoomed in the timeline and reduced the 62 seconds to something like 40, then it started to hesitate at 20 seconds. Ken: Refresh rate is 60, that is all I have on offer.

Thanks Dave (and Ken) That reference is essentially the same as the first one, except as you point out that they want me to re-set the acceleration every time I use PTE. As you say that is not all that practical, possible, but not that practical (especially closing everything I have open. As mentioned in a post two above, I'll keep an eye on the computer performance and see if the setting of the hardware acceleration two notches lower is having any negative effects. If it is, then I guess I may have to re-set it every time, or bite the bullet and switch to using auto scroll 1. Thx again

By Jove, I think you have it !!! My hardware acceleration was set at full, I dropped it down a notch and the Auto Scroll 2 was OK. Mind you while typing this I went back and checked again, and it was much better, but still spluttered once. So I knocked the acceleration down another notch and it seems almost perfect, there is am infinitesimal non-smoothness, but you have to be watching very closely for it. Let's see if that solves Hawk's problem too. Looks like this will solve the issue and let me have my favourite Auto scroll style back, I'll just have to watch out and see if the setting change affects anything else. I still can pause the mini-player by left clicking anywhere in the mini-player pane, and again, if I left click in the file pane and then try left clicking in the mini-player pane, no pause. Thanks !!!

Dave: I checked to be sure, hardware acceleration was turned on my show

Ralph: I dug out my two laptops and and at first thought your theory re the video card size was the answer, but..... Laptop One: Toshiba M30 NVIDIA GeForce Go 5200 64mb, 512mb RAM screen res 1024x768 Auto Scroll 2 ran fine. (I forgot to test for left clicking in the mini-player pane to see if it would pause) Laptop Two Toshiba U200 Intel 945GM Express 128mb, 1gb RAM, screen res 1280x800 Auto Scroll ran OK !!!!! Left clicking in mini-player pane would pause the run. And again if I left clicked in File pane (this time without opening an image from the file) and then tried left clicking in the mini-player, it did NOT pause.

Didn't make a difference at my end. I restarted PTE to be sure Thx for the suggestion

Ralph: I double checked that clicking off the PTE window would not pause the play in the mini-player (I had not checked that) It does not Only happens when I left click within the min-viewer pane as observed before

We have a few leads on similar terminology with the Canon Projector. It would have been more helpful to have more support from Canon (and Panasonic) on this. Unfortunately access to the Canon projector (our camera club projector) is not as simple as accessing my Panasonic which is in my "AV room" semi-permanently set up, plus Ed and I are "tested out" at this point but we will be following up soon. In the meantime we are hoping this might be a lead that others with the same problem can follow up on and report any success.

Ralph: Yes weird as you say...... My screen is 1280x1024. With PTE open on the full screen the timeline scroll 2 does the spluttering as we have seen, reduce it to about 1024x768 (approx) or smaller and everything sails along smoothly as you say. Yes left clicking in the mini-player pane causes it to pause and start upon a new left click. you can repeat this as many times as you want. Left click in the file pane (left side) and it stops and opens up the image you clicked on. Click again on the mini-player start button and away it runs again, but the left click anywhere in the min-player pane won't pause it. To get the pause with left click anywhere on mini-player pane, I have to stop it and send it back to zero and hit play.

Just a quick correction the feature is called FRAME LOCK, not FRAME RATE

Further to post #8 above: When I said the spluttering was worse, I have just noticed that I was using a different show. When I use a show with just fade transitions, Scroll 2 stops only when going through the fade, otherwise the blue triangle carries on fine. During the stoppage the pause and stop buttons are not effective. However when I run a show of animations (pans and zooms) with a fade between each one, the blue triangle stops on the fade and then splutters and stops during the animation. During which the pause/stop buttons are not effective. In all cases the show continues normally, it is just the scrolling that is the issue No difference with my Anti-virus (AVG ) turned off

Hi Hawk Well I am "glad" I am not the only one with the issue. I never noticed the sluggish response to the PAUSE so I went back and tried it Yes I have the same issue only it is worse now. It used to only stall at the grey transition line, now it is spluttering along the whole line. I also figured out the why it reacted 31 seconds from the start and wenmt back to normal at 31 seconds from the end. That is the halfway point on my TIMELINE that is visible on my screen. i.e. the point at which it would normally start scrolling at the front or stop scrolling at the end If I zoom in, then the same issue starts at the new halfway point.

Two thoughts - both might not be the issue: I have in the past accidentally created a WAV file with the wrong frequency. I used something other than 44,100mhz that gave me the kind of result you are seeing The other option is check TIMED POINTS > SET END OF LAST SLIDE TO END OF MUSIC. I had that issue bringing the music in from another ver of PTE and clicking on that solved the issue without making a mess of my synching