Transitions longer than two seconds?

[SoCu]

Hello, 
Why can't I create transitions longer than two seconds?

Would it be possible to change this so I can use files with longer durations?

Thank you.

[jkb]

You can create Transitions of any length you want.
Just make sure that the Slide Duration is longer than the Transition Time.

You can set the Default Transition & Slide Duration in Project Options.

You can Change it in Slide Options, or by Clicking the Times shown on the actual Slide in SlideList View.

But I find the easiest way is in Timeline.
Simply drag the Slide to extend/Shorten it's Duration & Drag the Grey Bar above the Slide to adjust the Transition.

Jill

 

[SoCu]

Hi jkb, thanks for your reply. I'm not asking how to use it; I'm asking about creating a new transition.

[davegee]

The default time for Creation of a Transition is set at 2 seconds.

You set the actual Transition Duration when applying the Transition, or as Jill suggested, in the Timeline.

What "files with longer durations" do you want to use in a Transition?

[SoCu]

Hi davegee, there are video clips that are longer than 2 seconds. If you speed them up to fit into those 2 seconds, the transition doesn't look very good when played back because they go by too fast, and there are videos that need more time for the effect to be seen clearly.

I think it's better to set the transition to the necessary duration when you create it, so you don't have to keep testing each transition.

[jienense]

 

1 hour ago, davegee said:

The default time for Creation of a Transition is set at 2 seconds.

I don't quite understand the reason for this restriction either. When I create a style, I can use as much time as I want, so why can't I do that in a transition?

There must be a reason, and it would be good to know it.

 

 

 

[davegee]

Perhaps we can get Igor to explain?

I wonder if creating a slide as a transition would be a better fit here.

If you posted in "Suggestions" it might provoke some action.

DG

[jkb]

13 hours ago, SoCu said:

Hi jkb, thanks for your reply. I'm not asking how to use it; I'm asking about creating a new transition.

I now realise that you are wanting to create a Custom Transition, this wasn't obvious from your post.
It is not something I ever do as to me every 2 Slide combination is unique & Transition Duration would not apply to another 2 Slide combination.

Jill

[Igor]

Hi,

Transition duration is always determined by the user (via Project Options or Slide Options).

When author creates a new transition, he works with a virtual duration of 2 seconds (this is simply a convention, it's not a fixed duration). In reality, the transition and keyframes of all objects will be compressed or expanded in time depending on the transition duration chosen by the user.

We've intentionally designed this so that the transition creator isn't tied to a specific transition duration, but can design it universally for any reasonable duration subsequently selected by the user (0.5 seconds, 2 seconds, 5 seconds, 10 seconds, etc).

[davegee]

If you add a video which is longer than the 2 second default when creating a transition, Igor is indicating that it it is not cut off and can be recovered when applied by extending the transition duration. However, if some editing of the video between 2 sec and the end of the video is required, how is that achieved ??

DG 

[SoCu]

If the transition, when I create it, I cannot give it the time that I want, for example, 10 seconds of transition, when I apply it, if I remember the seconds that that transition has, I can give it the time that the video of the transition has, but if that transition is used by someone else, it will not know the real time that the transition has, it assumes that it is two seconds, so if it has to be playing with the times, it is a waste of time, apart from the fact that if it is not given the real time, it will not be seen good.

[jienense]

Hi everyone,

When creating a new transition, if it only contains images, it's perfect. The problem arises when using video masks in a transition. If the video is, for example, 6 seconds long, there's no way to make it play completely. I'm currently working on some transitions where the video mask is 9 seconds long. I sped it up in another external program to make it 4 seconds long, then sped it up again to 200% to fit within the 2-second limit, and then applied it, setting the transition to 6 seconds on the timeline. The result is a bit jarring. Having to speed up the video only to slow it down again once the transition is applied isn't a desirable solution, in my opinion.

[Igor]

Just to make sure I understand you correctly - are you saying that in the custom transition editor you need the ability to change the preview duration (to see how current custom transition looks at different speeds)?

Or is the issue that when user apply this custom transition, it uses the default duration from Project Options (Slide Options), usually 2 seconds?

[SoCu]

I'm not sure if Google Translate got it right, but I'm not asking for a preview to see how the transition looks at different speeds.

As I mentioned in my first message, what I'm asking is that the transitions not be limited to two seconds.

 

Those two seconds are fine when you add an image, but when you add videos longer than two seconds, those fixed two seconds are no longer effective.

 

If I add a 9-second video, the transition will never look right.

Ideally, we should be able to create a transition and set it to any length we want, not be limited to two seconds.

 

[jienense]

Como dice "Socu", el problema surge al crear una nueva transición; si la máscara de vídeo tiene una duración de 7 segundos, es imposible crear la transición porque no se reproducirá en su totalidad dentro de los 2 segundos que tiene como máximo la transición.

 

 

[Igor]

I think I'm confused  
Am I correct in understanding that you need to change the duration for editing and preview in the new custom transition editor?

I just want to remind you that in any case, the end user will see your transition with the duration set in Project Options (Slide Options). Typically, this is 2 seconds. Of course, user can change this duration.

If you want a fixed transition duration (9s, for example), it's better to include the transition in the slide style.

[SoCu]

Yes, if the goal is to create a 9-second transition, when creating the transition, you should be able to edit the timings to ensure the transition has the necessary seconds to function correctly, preventing it from ending up with only 2 seconds.

[jienense]

I'm sending you a transition for you to try editing. The two masks it contains exceed the time limit. The question is, how can I fix this so that the masks finish playing?

https://transfer.it/t/CeXF1dkHBDRb

 

[Igor]

You're right, thanks. When creating a new transition, its duration is fixed at 2 seconds, and only a portion of the video is displayed (for your video, that's 2 seconds out of 10 seconds).
After the user applies a custom transition, all objects are automatically scaled (including the video speed) to match the user-selected duration. This will also ensure the display of animations and video objects is not disrupted.
We'll try to add a new parameter to the custom transition editing window: transition duration.