mhwarner Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 I know many of your are extracting parts of images to use in transparent .PNG files in P2E v 5. I just ran across this free tool (Photoshop plugin) today and thought some of you might be interested in trying it. There is a downloadable tutorial (.mov file) as well. Haven't had a chance to try it myself, but I did look at the tutorial and it seems like it might be easier than traditional methods on some images. I did look at a similar (not free) product a while back (the name escapes me), but it was about $60 US, so I passed on it.http://graphics.cs.msu.su/en/research/Segment/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevans Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 I know many of your are extracting parts of images to use in transparent .PNG files in P2E v 5. I just ran across this free tool (Photoshop plugin) today and thought some of you might be interested in trying it. There is a downloadable tutorial (.mov file) as well. Haven't had a chance to try it myself, but I did look at the tutorial and it seems like it might be easier than traditional methods on some images. I did look at a similar (not free) product a while back (the name escapes me), but it was about $60 US, so I passed on it.http://graphics.cs.msu.su/en/research/Segment/index.htmlDownloaded this program today. It contains two separate methods for selection/extraction and is very good. Will enable quite difficult selections and extracts to be made very easily. I highly recommend this as a Photoshop plugin well worth having.Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alrobin Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 Thanks, Robert!I'll give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedom Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 Excellent!At the end of the process, if you choose the option "Refine borders", the result is almost perfect.A great tool. And it only takes 20 sec maximum to make a very complex extracion!! Thank you very much for sharing! Here are some samples from Graphics and Media Lab, the editor of this tool, to give you the taste to try too : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloegyr Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Hi all,after reading the above I thought what a good tool. But I have been trying all morning to download it from the site but does not work, it takes forever then cancells.Can any one tell me if there is something else to do?MikeMersea Island, England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Cox Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Mikei can email the 2 exe's to your aol addie2 separate lettersfiles are 2.6 mb earsvpthe mov tutorial is 10 mb +- -- would not send itken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogie Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Cox Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 send me an emailmy addie is in my signaturepbyk@sympatico.caken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharkins Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 I tried it but it seemed buggy. I could not get the black background mask to show the extracted image inside the selected area. Would be good if it worked reliably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lin Evans Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 I tried it but it seemed buggy. I could not get the black background mask to show the extracted image inside the selected area. Would be good if it worked reliably.It sounds very much like you are using "Filter" rather than "Select" to open the masked image in Photoshop.Try this:Open an image in Photoshop then choose GML Growcut from the "select" rather than the "filter" menu (it will appear in both places). Next draw a rectangle around the object to be extracted. Choose Next. Hold down the left mouse button and make a few red marks inside the boundaries around the object to be extracted. Hold down the right mouse button and make a few blue marks outside the boundaries. Then click on refine boundaries followed by choosing about a 5 pixel smooth and a 19 pixel brush size to smooth any rough edges then click on "finish" and then Edit, Copy. Now your selection is on the clipboard.Next open a transparent PNG and do Edit Paste. You should have a great extraction and paste....Lin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharkins Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 OK, it "sort of" worked, but the edges are very hard - where is the feathering capability? The soft brush doesn't work either. I think I'll stick with the tried and true Photoshop selection techniques with better control and feathered edges. And it's about the same time to make the selection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lin Evans Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Andreas, I had the same results in Photoshop CS2. A black and white image after clicking on finish. I have a busy schedule right now and couldn't give any more time to the attempt, but I'm sure it's just lack of knowledge and that with a few more minutes to spare, we'll find the right way to get the results.larryHi Larry,That's the result of clicking on "filter" and using the plugin from that rather than from "select". Try using the plugin from the "select" menu instead of from the "filter" menu.Best regards,Lin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adda Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Perhaps I found a solution or a work arround for PhotoImpact.1. Hold basis-picture (dont know, which is the correct translation)2. Select all2. Extracting Objekt with GrowCut Mask3. Clicking finish > there will be a black and white picture4. magic selection on white part of the picture5. delete selection6. now you have the objekt and can copy it in the clipboard.See result.Best regards Andreas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lin Evans Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 OK, it "sort of" worked, but the edges are very hard - where is the feathering capability? The soft brush doesn't work either. I think I'll stick with the tried and true Photoshop selection techniques with better control and feathered edges. And it's about the same time to make the selection.Maybe I need to make a tutorial to explain how to feather the edges - you do it with the border smoothing pixel size chosen for the edges. After making the extraction it's also very easy to touch up quickly with Photoshop.It's obviously not as sophisticated as some of the Photoshop or top-end mask tools, but I would have to disagree about the "speed". It's actually very, very fast once you understand how to use it. Remember, it works with tools which othewise don't have the facility to do this type thing such as Irfanview, etc., so being in development and being "free" is not a bad thing, It probably will get better, but is quite inventive in the methodology they use.If there is enough interest I would be willing to make an audio-visual tutorial to add to the very brief visual only provided by the developers. Best regards,Lin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedom Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Any chance of putting on Thedom Sharing Place or getting it direct from you Ken?The file is now avalaible on my site. [click on the image above to directly access the download page I send a message to the authors to ask permission to host it permanently.OK, it "sort of" worked, but the edges are very hard - where is the feathering capability?At the end of the process, do not forget to choose the option "Refine borders", the result will be almost perfect !And it's about the same time to make the selection.30 seconds maximum to make a very complex extraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adda Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 I tried GrownCut Mask with PhotoImpact 10.In the help-file I found this Information:GML GrowCut Mask and GML GrowCut Mask Extract works under Adobe® Photoshop® program family, as well as under every program, which supports Adobe Photoshop filter plugins (Paint Shop Pro, IrfanView, etc.). It seems, that it does not work with PhotoImpact10.Extracting of objekts worth well within the program, but if I klick finish, I get only a black and white picture (see test.jpg).Any ideas?Best regardAndreas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Cox Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 ANDREADOESPhotoImpact10.accept PhotoShop plugins?ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adda Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 ANDREADOESPhotoImpact10.accept PhotoShop plugins?kenHi Ken!Yes.Same effect with PhaintShop Pro XI.What did I wrong?Any Idea?Best regardsAndreas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloegyr Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Hi KenMany thanks for your kind offer if you could send them to MikeDsea@aol.com it would be most appreciated.Many thanksMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Cox Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Lin and the rest of the Adobe crew will have to help you -- beyond my abilities ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adda Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Attachments show the status before and after cklicking finish in Paintshop Pro 11.Same result in PhotoImpact 10.It's a pity that i haven't PhotoShop.Best regardsAndreas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lathompson Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Attachments show the status before and after cklicking finish in Paintshop Pro 11.Same result in PhotoImpact 10.It's a pity that i haven't PhotoShop.Best regardsAndreasAndreas, I had the same results in Photoshop CS2. A black and white image after clicking on finish. I have a busy schedule right now and couldn't give any more time to the attempt, but I'm sure it's just lack of knowledge and that with a few more minutes to spare, we'll find the right way to get the results.larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter S Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 Here is another tool that may be of interest. It captures screen pictures or any selected part of the screen and enables the result to be saved in numerous formats including jpeg, tif and PNG.It is called Faststone capture and is free fromhttp://www.faststone.org/Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfa Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 http://graphics.cs.msu.su/en/research/Segment/index.htmlI also had problems downloading from the above link.Found this one at "Graphics & Media Lab" to work well:http://research.graphicon.ru/component/opt...nc,select/id,1/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Downloaded this program today. It contains two separate methods for selection/extraction and is very good. Will enable quite difficult selections and extracts to be made very easily. I highly recommend this as a Photoshop plugin well worth having.JeffI have been trying to download this plugin for hours without any success Is there anywhere else I can download it from.Thank you Royo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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