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COR

you forgot the picts smile.gif

ken

Hello Ken,

I adapted the pictures in the original post.

Is it working now?

Thanks in advance.

Cor

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Posted

Renewal post today 11:01 AM:

Hello Igor,

Just for your info.

I noticed some minor flaws in the layout of PTE 6.5 Beta 6, Dutch language setup and some languages other then English:

- Project Options, Music

(Dutch: Projectopties, Muziek/Geluid)

When you add a second track (or more then one track) with the corresponding music, close the window with OK, re-open the window again, there is some mix up of the layout (see picture 1)

All is well with only one track.

picture 1: post-539-127592130215_thumb.jpg

- There is a mix up of the title on some buttons (see picture 2), or the title is not in the middle of the button anymore.

picture 2: post-539-127592136926_thumb.jpg

Greetings,

Cor

Posted

Like mode SlideList/Timeline, the option "Show/hide waveform" stores in the program settings. I thought both options associated with settings of PicturesToExe. Do you think this option should be stored in a project file?

Would this mean that the program will ask me to save changes in case where I open a project and just change the view? Wouldn't that be confusing?

I agree with Xaver.

I guess this is not an option the users will set on/off for every project.

Isn't it a general setting of PTE they will set once and keep it because this is the way they prefer to work ?

And this is an option that doesn't have any influence on the ouput file.

We could ask the same question for "Show Grid", "Show Safe TV Zone", "Ignore Objects not selected", "Hide selection on PZR", "Language", "Advanced options", etc...

That's why, in my opinion, it should be kept as a software preference.

But if most of you prefer to save it in the project file, I won't fight against it. :lol:

Posted

Track2 is ignored in the mp4 video:

I installed 6.5 beta6 and built a slideshow with 2 music tracks.

Everything runs OK as long as you run PTE or exe file.

After creating one mp4 file, I discovered that only track1 was on the mp4 file!

No sound from track2!

music project options are as follow:

track1:

duration 3:48.086

Offset 0.02.00

track2:

Start time 0:02.000

Duration 1:15.086

Crossfading 0:02.000

Offset 3:48.000

Fadeout 0:09.000

mp4 built parameters

bitrate 128

Samplerate 44100

channels auto

I went back to audacity to mix the 2 tracks and got a good mp4

Jean

Posted

Hello Jean,

I only can have a good result, when I put the pieces of music on one track, then the mix of music will play fine.

See post-539-12759852884_thumb.jpg and post-539-127598531291_thumb.jpg

The mix with more then one track is still not working I think in PTE 6.5 Beta 6.

Greetings,

Cor

Posted

Hello Dave,

I have followed your example and the result is no music at all and no waveform.

See post-539-127599295555_thumb.jpg and post-539-12759929773_thumb.jpg

It is very strange, I tried also an other hierarchy to put the tracks, the music.

I tried with an existing project, a new project, reset the defaults, etc. All of no succes.

The music must be there because I see the red "music end" line post-539-127599412933_thumb.jpg

But the only way I can see the waveform and hear the music is with only one track to mix the music.

Greetings,

Cor

Posted

I just tried it again with a NEW PROJECT and set it up as per my example and it works in both Preview and EXE.

The problem appears to be with your system/setup?

Crossfade produces some puzzling results so I have not used it at all (yet).

Try ticking OFFSET instead of CROSSFADE for track 1? (Edit: I don't think it's that!).

DG

Posted

John,

Hi,

I am using Beta 6 on Window 7 64

I am trying to get to grips with the various options for adding sound, but more of that perhaps on another occasion.

My immediate concern is that I have found that under certain conditions the "file route indication" at the top of the preview window for “add sound” is removed, yet on playback the audio is still there.

Part of my experimenting is to establish what link there is if any between “Add Sound” above and adding sound under “Customize Slide”.

What I have discovered in relation to the problem I have encountered as described above is that if I open the music tab in Customise Sound and use the small back arrow to work through the slides over a slide that contains “Added Sound” the route indication is removed from that slide.

John

Thanks! We just fixed it for next Beta 7.

Cor,

These is some strange behavior with the "Set Defaults" button in "Project Options - Music" of PTE 6.5 Beta 6.

Pressing the "Set Defaults" button, removes every input, but after that the screen freezes completely (buttons are not working anymore). One has to leave the window and reopen it to continue.

I noticed some minor flaws in the layout of PTE 6.5 Beta 6, Dutch language setup and some languages other then English:

Thank you, all 3 issues will be fixed in Beta 7.

Posted

Hi Jean,

I was specific about Preview and EXE because I don't make Video / DVD etc.

You could be right in that it only fails when compiling video?

Anyone else?

DG

Posted

Hi,

Audio

I have three files entered in Track 1 under the Project Options/Music. All three are 30 seconds long, but the third one has a reduced duration (Customize/Duration) of 22 seconds. I wish to have a total of 1 minute 12 seconds of sound. I have a Fade In on the first file of 5 seconds and a Fade Out on the third file of 5 seconds. The Crossfading for all three files is 5 seconds. Taking into account the overlap of the Crossfading this amounts to 1 minute 12 seconds of sound. However, the total time displayed on the Track 1 line is only 1:07. The waveform display is correct, filling up the whole 1:12, and the audio plays correctly. Bit if a discrepancy here, I think.

Cheers,

David P

Posted

Hi David,

I agree. I tried putting two files into track one (4.36 and 2.57) with a 15 second crossfade added to both files the time indicated for the track was 7.03.

The time indicated on the timeline was 7.18.

This is a 15 second discrepancy?

I removed the crossfade from the first file and the Track time and the Timeline time were then both 7.18.

The effect on the music (with my files) was exactly the same.

It seems that you only need to enter the crossfade ONCE to get the desired effect(?). Entering it twice causes the discrepancy that you described and I was able to duplicate.

I'm sure that there are other uses for crossfade but to achieve what I did in my experiment the Fade In, Fade Out and Offset will do the same thing (in separate tracks).

There are people here who are much more Audio capable than I. (I just play). I'm surprised that they haven't thrown their hat in?

DG

Posted

Hi Dave,

Thanks for sorting the timing out ... it works perfectly. The trouble is that if you click on the Crossfading button next to the Customize button it adds the crossfading time that you set to every sound, including the first one.

There are people here who are much more Audio capable than I. (I just play). I'm surprised that they haven't thrown their hat in?

Couldn't agree more.

Cheers,

David P

Posted

David,

Hi,

Audio

I have three files entered in Track 1 under the Project Options/Music. All three are 30 seconds long, but the third one has a reduced duration (Customize/Duration) of 22 seconds. I wish to have a total of 1 minute 12 seconds of sound. I have a Fade In on the first file of 5 seconds and a Fade Out on the third file of 5 seconds. The Crossfading for all three files is 5 seconds. Taking into account the overlap of the Crossfading this amounts to 1 minute 12 seconds of sound. However, the total time displayed on the Track 1 line is only 1:07. The waveform display is correct, filling up the whole 1:12, and the audio plays correctly. Bit if a discrepancy here, I think.

Cheers,

David P

Thank you, we've fixed this bug for the next Beta 7.

Posted

Hi,

What does the following mean?

When you use "Synchronize music and slides" option, you cannot use personal playlists of slides

I have been trying to put music on 2 tracks.

If I turn off "Synchronize..." option I get no sound at all in Preview nor when I create the .exe file. However, I get sound when playing the slide show in the Preview Window on the main screen.

Cheers,

David P

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Posted

When the first PTE "sound editing" version came available, I didn't download it a) because I'm an Audacity user, and B) because I could forsee there would be a long learning curve before PTE could come anywhere near Audacitie's features, maybe this is why others haven't thrown their hats into the ring. I read all the posts on this thread and IMHO PTE's sound editing looks more involved than Audacity

Yachtsman1. B)

PS the smiley in the middle of the text is a PTE anomoly reported some time ago where if you use a lower cas a followed by a bracket, you get the smiley, not what it should be.

Posted

yachtsman1,

It is possible you (and others) are missing the point.

It is my understanding that PTE's new audio facility has NOT been designed to replace Audacity.

I understand that the features being provided are simply to give us greater control over the synchronization between audio and images than is possible using the likes of Audacity remotely. Audacity should be regarded as another great preparation tool in much the same way as Photoshop is for images. Clearly, there is, and no doubt increasingly over time there will be more overlaps. I don't think it has ever been claimed that this would be a "sound editing" version. Audacity will always be the tool for that as is Photoshop for images.

I certainly have found that using PTE's new facility has given me much better control than I could achieve working with two programs (PTE/Audacity) independently.

Neither must we lose site of the fact that we are still working with a Beta version and if I am not mistaken Igor has also indicated that there will be further more sophisticated developments with the next issue (6.6 or whatever).

Regards

John

Posted

I agree John,

Being an AUDITION and SOUNDBOOTH user I find Audacity to be a little on the BASIC side.

However, although having been sceptical about the introduction of this feature into PTE, I am happy to join in with its development.

Being inquisitive about its features and how it fits in is natural to some. Also when asked a question about it being able to understand the question helps.

DG

Guest Yachtsman1
Posted

John

I know this is a Beta version, but would it not have been better to issue it to a selection of "Super" users rather than let whoever might stray onto the forum, having just bought the software download it and wonder what the heck is going on? As an example, how many versions of Audacity have been produced since you started using it? ;)

Regards Eric

Yachtsman1.

Posted

I am also an Audacity user, but I can see (hope) that the audio arranging features of P2E could be a useful alternative to Audacity when undertaking audio arranging work without having to swap programs. Already simple arranging (provided one keeps to just 1 track) with not too many different files to work with is easily accomplished, but a lot more work needs doing to this part of the program, which, of course, we have been promised.

One example of what I think is needed (just a personal opinion, and it may not be right):

I am told, and provided I didn't misunderstand, that it will never be possible to repeat a sound track with crossfading by clicking on Repeat music after playing in Project Options/Music thus making the whole track seamless. The work-around is to add in all the same files again and set the crossfading time again. Anyway, even this won't work if you choose Repeat show until ESC is pressed in Project Options/Main which is a pity. This is something which Audacity can't help with.

My vision would be to use audio in P2E as a sophisticated audio clip arranging tool dedicated to easily adding audio files with accurate timing. The basics are there and I believe that the programmer(s) can and will improve on this.

David P

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