CorVdK Posted June 7, 2010 Report Posted June 7, 2010 CORyou forgot the picts kenHello Ken,I adapted the pictures in the original post.Is it working now?Thanks in advance.Cor
Ken Cox Posted June 7, 2010 Report Posted June 7, 2010 the 2nd set still give an error messagethe first set open okken
CorVdK Posted June 7, 2010 Report Posted June 7, 2010 Renewal post today 11:01 AM:Hello Igor,Just for your info.I noticed some minor flaws in the layout of PTE 6.5 Beta 6, Dutch language setup and some languages other then English:- Project Options, Music(Dutch: Projectopties, Muziek/Geluid)When you add a second track (or more then one track) with the corresponding music, close the window with OK, re-open the window again, there is some mix up of the layout (see picture 1)All is well with only one track.picture 1: - There is a mix up of the title on some buttons (see picture 2), or the title is not in the middle of the button anymore.picture 2: Greetings,Cor
CorVdK Posted June 7, 2010 Report Posted June 7, 2010 WORKING NOW YOU DA MAN KENAll's well that ends well.Thanks Ken
thedom Posted June 7, 2010 Report Posted June 7, 2010 Like mode SlideList/Timeline, the option "Show/hide waveform" stores in the program settings. I thought both options associated with settings of PicturesToExe. Do you think this option should be stored in a project file?Would this mean that the program will ask me to save changes in case where I open a project and just change the view? Wouldn't that be confusing? I agree with Xaver. I guess this is not an option the users will set on/off for every project. Isn't it a general setting of PTE they will set once and keep it because this is the way they prefer to work ?And this is an option that doesn't have any influence on the ouput file.We could ask the same question for "Show Grid", "Show Safe TV Zone", "Ignore Objects not selected", "Hide selection on PZR", "Language", "Advanced options", etc...That's why, in my opinion, it should be kept as a software preference. But if most of you prefer to save it in the project file, I won't fight against it.
jeanhum Posted June 8, 2010 Report Posted June 8, 2010 Track2 is ignored in the mp4 video:I installed 6.5 beta6 and built a slideshow with 2 music tracks.Everything runs OK as long as you run PTE or exe file.After creating one mp4 file, I discovered that only track1 was on the mp4 file!No sound from track2!music project options are as follow:track1:duration 3:48.086Offset 0.02.00track2:Start time 0:02.000Duration 1:15.086Crossfading 0:02.000Offset 3:48.000Fadeout 0:09.000mp4 built parametersbitrate 128Samplerate 44100channels autoI went back to audacity to mix the 2 tracks and got a good mp4Jean
CorVdK Posted June 8, 2010 Report Posted June 8, 2010 Hello Jean,I only can have a good result, when I put the pieces of music on one track, then the mix of music will play fine.See and The mix with more then one track is still not working I think in PTE 6.5 Beta 6.Greetings,Cor
davegee Posted June 8, 2010 Report Posted June 8, 2010 Hello Cor,Can you elaborate a little?This works for me (in EXE and Preview):http://www.picturest...showtopic=11969DG
CorVdK Posted June 8, 2010 Report Posted June 8, 2010 Hello Dave,I have followed your example and the result is no music at all and no waveform.See and It is very strange, I tried also an other hierarchy to put the tracks, the music.I tried with an existing project, a new project, reset the defaults, etc. All of no succes.The music must be there because I see the red "music end" line But the only way I can see the waveform and hear the music is with only one track to mix the music.Greetings,Cor
davegee Posted June 8, 2010 Report Posted June 8, 2010 I just tried it again with a NEW PROJECT and set it up as per my example and it works in both Preview and EXE.The problem appears to be with your system/setup?Crossfade produces some puzzling results so I have not used it at all (yet).Try ticking OFFSET instead of CROSSFADE for track 1? (Edit: I don't think it's that!).DG
Igor Posted June 8, 2010 Author Report Posted June 8, 2010 John,Hi,I am using Beta 6 on Window 7 64I am trying to get to grips with the various options for adding sound, but more of that perhaps on another occasion.My immediate concern is that I have found that under certain conditions the "file route indication" at the top of the preview window for “add sound” is removed, yet on playback the audio is still there.Part of my experimenting is to establish what link there is if any between “Add Sound” above and adding sound under “Customize Slide”.What I have discovered in relation to the problem I have encountered as described above is that if I open the music tab in Customise Sound and use the small back arrow to work through the slides over a slide that contains “Added Sound” the route indication is removed from that slide.John Thanks! We just fixed it for next Beta 7.Cor,These is some strange behavior with the "Set Defaults" button in "Project Options - Music" of PTE 6.5 Beta 6.Pressing the "Set Defaults" button, removes every input, but after that the screen freezes completely (buttons are not working anymore). One has to leave the window and reopen it to continue.I noticed some minor flaws in the layout of PTE 6.5 Beta 6, Dutch language setup and some languages other then English:Thank you, all 3 issues will be fixed in Beta 7.
jeanhum Posted June 8, 2010 Report Posted June 8, 2010 Hello Dave and CorThis works for me (in EXE and Preview):The same for me. But after encoding to video(mp4), the second track is missingJean
davegee Posted June 8, 2010 Report Posted June 8, 2010 Hi Jean,I was specific about Preview and EXE because I don't make Video / DVD etc.You could be right in that it only fails when compiling video?Anyone else?DG
dpletts Posted June 8, 2010 Report Posted June 8, 2010 Hi,AudioI have three files entered in Track 1 under the Project Options/Music. All three are 30 seconds long, but the third one has a reduced duration (Customize/Duration) of 22 seconds. I wish to have a total of 1 minute 12 seconds of sound. I have a Fade In on the first file of 5 seconds and a Fade Out on the third file of 5 seconds. The Crossfading for all three files is 5 seconds. Taking into account the overlap of the Crossfading this amounts to 1 minute 12 seconds of sound. However, the total time displayed on the Track 1 line is only 1:07. The waveform display is correct, filling up the whole 1:12, and the audio plays correctly. Bit if a discrepancy here, I think.Cheers,David P
davegee Posted June 8, 2010 Report Posted June 8, 2010 Hi David,I agree. I tried putting two files into track one (4.36 and 2.57) with a 15 second crossfade added to both files the time indicated for the track was 7.03.The time indicated on the timeline was 7.18.This is a 15 second discrepancy?I removed the crossfade from the first file and the Track time and the Timeline time were then both 7.18.The effect on the music (with my files) was exactly the same.It seems that you only need to enter the crossfade ONCE to get the desired effect(?). Entering it twice causes the discrepancy that you described and I was able to duplicate.I'm sure that there are other uses for crossfade but to achieve what I did in my experiment the Fade In, Fade Out and Offset will do the same thing (in separate tracks).There are people here who are much more Audio capable than I. (I just play). I'm surprised that they haven't thrown their hat in?DG
dpletts Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 Hi Dave,Thanks for sorting the timing out ... it works perfectly. The trouble is that if you click on the Crossfading button next to the Customize button it adds the crossfading time that you set to every sound, including the first one.There are people here who are much more Audio capable than I. (I just play). I'm surprised that they haven't thrown their hat in?Couldn't agree more.Cheers,David P
Igor Posted June 9, 2010 Author Report Posted June 9, 2010 David,Hi,AudioI have three files entered in Track 1 under the Project Options/Music. All three are 30 seconds long, but the third one has a reduced duration (Customize/Duration) of 22 seconds. I wish to have a total of 1 minute 12 seconds of sound. I have a Fade In on the first file of 5 seconds and a Fade Out on the third file of 5 seconds. The Crossfading for all three files is 5 seconds. Taking into account the overlap of the Crossfading this amounts to 1 minute 12 seconds of sound. However, the total time displayed on the Track 1 line is only 1:07. The waveform display is correct, filling up the whole 1:12, and the audio plays correctly. Bit if a discrepancy here, I think.Cheers,David P Thank you, we've fixed this bug for the next Beta 7.
dpletts Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 Hi,What does the following mean?When you use "Synchronize music and slides" option, you cannot use personal playlists of slidesI have been trying to put music on 2 tracks.If I turn off "Synchronize..." option I get no sound at all in Preview nor when I create the .exe file. However, I get sound when playing the slide show in the Preview Window on the main screen.Cheers,David P
Guest Yachtsman1 Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 When the first PTE "sound editing" version came available, I didn't download it a) because I'm an Audacity user, and because I could forsee there would be a long learning curve before PTE could come anywhere near Audacitie's features, maybe this is why others haven't thrown their hats into the ring. I read all the posts on this thread and IMHO PTE's sound editing looks more involved than AudacityYachtsman1. PS the smiley in the middle of the text is a PTE anomoly reported some time ago where if you use a lower cas a followed by a bracket, you get the smiley, not what it should be.
JEB Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 yachtsman1,It is possible you (and others) are missing the point. It is my understanding that PTE's new audio facility has NOT been designed to replace Audacity. I understand that the features being provided are simply to give us greater control over the synchronization between audio and images than is possible using the likes of Audacity remotely. Audacity should be regarded as another great preparation tool in much the same way as Photoshop is for images. Clearly, there is, and no doubt increasingly over time there will be more overlaps. I don't think it has ever been claimed that this would be a "sound editing" version. Audacity will always be the tool for that as is Photoshop for images.I certainly have found that using PTE's new facility has given me much better control than I could achieve working with two programs (PTE/Audacity) independently.Neither must we lose site of the fact that we are still working with a Beta version and if I am not mistaken Igor has also indicated that there will be further more sophisticated developments with the next issue (6.6 or whatever).RegardsJohn
davegee Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 I agree John,Being an AUDITION and SOUNDBOOTH user I find Audacity to be a little on the BASIC side.However, although having been sceptical about the introduction of this feature into PTE, I am happy to join in with its development.Being inquisitive about its features and how it fits in is natural to some. Also when asked a question about it being able to understand the question helps.DG
Guest Yachtsman1 Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 JohnI know this is a Beta version, but would it not have been better to issue it to a selection of "Super" users rather than let whoever might stray onto the forum, having just bought the software download it and wonder what the heck is going on? As an example, how many versions of Audacity have been produced since you started using it? Regards EricYachtsman1.
dpletts Posted June 9, 2010 Report Posted June 9, 2010 I am also an Audacity user, but I can see (hope) that the audio arranging features of P2E could be a useful alternative to Audacity when undertaking audio arranging work without having to swap programs. Already simple arranging (provided one keeps to just 1 track) with not too many different files to work with is easily accomplished, but a lot more work needs doing to this part of the program, which, of course, we have been promised.One example of what I think is needed (just a personal opinion, and it may not be right):I am told, and provided I didn't misunderstand, that it will never be possible to repeat a sound track with crossfading by clicking on Repeat music after playing in Project Options/Music thus making the whole track seamless. The work-around is to add in all the same files again and set the crossfading time again. Anyway, even this won't work if you choose Repeat show until ESC is pressed in Project Options/Main which is a pity. This is something which Audacity can't help with.My vision would be to use audio in P2E as a sophisticated audio clip arranging tool dedicated to easily adding audio files with accurate timing. The basics are there and I believe that the programmer(s) can and will improve on this.David P
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