Igor Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 Any thoughts what we should do with VideoBuilder (DVD video) in PTE 10? Now we're fully rewriting the main code of PTE 10 to prepare Mac version, 64-bit, Dark/Light interface. VideoBuilder is a very old part of PTE. Of course, we can spend additional 3-5 months and fully rewrite it, but DVD video format becomes outdated and less popular with every year. Should we remove VideoBuilder, or keep it "as is" without official support? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideangle Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 I take lots of photos as a way of recording rambles for a local group of walkers, many of whom are quite old and just trying to keep mobile! Most are not very high-tech people but dvds are an ideal way for me to distribute those memories to them, and PTE gives me the perfect platform to do it, so I use it all the time. Regards wideangle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Beckham Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 Remove it and steer users towards Mp4 is my view. It’s had its day and it’s time to let it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnwnjr Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 I still find DVD very useful for distribution, and as my players all upgrade the image it still looks very good on TV and via a projector. The PTE programme works very well for me and therefore I suggest keeping it as is. I also find that if I have a programme of sequences on a DVD projection is more immediate than waiting for a laptop to boot up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkb Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 I never use DVD but I know a lot of video workers do still use them. Keep it as it is for now, I don't feel it is worth spending time to update it. You would be better spending the time on making video editing better with multiple image tracks. Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt49 Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 I wonder if it would be a good decision to offer PTE 10 with a component that will not be supported. It might be better to remove the video builder. There are lots of cheap and even free tools for authoring DVDs and BDs (for those who really want to use them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orizaba Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Hi Igor, Jill said "You would be better spending the time on making video editing better with multiple image tracks." Not a bad idea! But I would ask once more to keep timeline static while you zoom in, I mean, line position static. Now, when we zoom in, timeline runs to left or right. Thank you. Jose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom95521 Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 My new PC does not include a DVD drive. I would have to connect an external DVD to install disc software or create video discs, but almost everything now is accessible online. The video resolution is so low that I think "as is" like Pixbuilder Studio without support is a good option. Another option is to keep mpeg-2 video output with ISO creation without menu builder or burn engine. Then users could mount ISO or burn with imgburn. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potwnc Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 As long as PTE can output H.264/MP4, there are multiple free programs available to convert (transcode) that video into MPEG-2 format and author a DVD. So, I say don't waste time updating VideoBuilder - getting PTE 10 to market is more important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronniebootwest Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Back in the day, I used DVD and CD very often and PTE was very good. However I am now getting older and now use MP4 all of the time. The more modern computers do not include cd or dvd drives and my guess is that DVD will fall into disuse completely quite soon. I support leaving Video Builder on PTE at its current version for those users who still use it but, no need to update it. GET ON WITH WITH GETTING THE MAC VERSION OF PTE UP AND RUNNING PLEASE! Ron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonton Bruno Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 I presume we can find many free softwares able to read a mp4 file and convert it to a DVD format. In my humble opinion, there is no need for such a feature in PTE 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideangle Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Can it be set up as a totally separate stand-alone product? If so, it could be offered as a free download from the WnSoft website in its current as-is state with no further support offered. That would leave PTE free to be develeloped without it. It would also be a solution which is likely to satisfy everybody. Regards wideangle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt49 Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Question: Will WnSoft have to pay for any kind of licenses in case of publishing the video-builder together with PTE 10, or as a stand-alone application? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picsel Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 None of our club members still burn DVD. On our side we do not need any longer for such a feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orizaba Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 PTE can publish very high quality HD mp4 files which deserve to be burn in Blu-ray discs, not DVD anymore. Such mp4 files can be changed into BD format without any re-encoding, so keeping 100% of their high quality. BD discs result simply amazing! DVD days are finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Posted November 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Thanks for all your responses. 5 hours ago, jt49 said: Question: Will WnSoft have to pay for any kind of licenses in case of publishing the video-builder together with PTE 10, or as a stand-alone application? Already not, last MPEG-2 patents were expired recently. 5 hours ago, wideangle said: Can it be set up as a totally separate stand-alone product? If so, it could be offered as a free download from the WnSoft website in its current as-is state with no further support offered. That would leave PTE free to be develeloped without it. It would also be a solution which is likely to satisfy everybody. Thanks, it's an interesting idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herge49 Posted November 8, 2018 Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 I have never created a DVD with PTE-7-8 and 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt49 Posted November 8, 2018 Report Share Posted November 8, 2018 I think that wideangle's idea is a good one. If the stand-alone video builder would have the restriction to work with videos only (no PTE-projects) it still could a 32-bit application, and there would not be compatibility problems with new versions of PTE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmG-06100 Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 I have stopped burning DVDs several years ago (except very few exceptions) as they are limited to 4.7 GB, as opposed to USB keys with up to 64 GB easily. Most people I visit have a modern TV set (or attached decoder or DVD player) where I can insert a USB key for direct reading, which is so practical. Several years ago, I have sent a DVD with pictures to a friend in New Zealand, and the disc arrived broken; I then sent a more compact USB key that survived OK (nowadays I would probably send the files via internet). Moreover I have found that conventional DVDs are *NOT* to be used for archival as there are several of my recorded discs that I could not read after a few years, although they were hardly ever used. Special long duration surface coatings are provided by the "Gold Professional DVD" by Kodak for instance, claimed to give "up to 100 years archival", but I now prefer multiple hard disc safeguards. In short: no DVD use for me in PTE. I can always copy files (individual pictures or PTE output) to a DVD if I need to, with the supplied DVD software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canico Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 I use DVDs all the time and would be lost without this facility . I find the best way to view photos and sequences is on a large screen TV via a dvd player. This way friends and family can view together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacogada Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 The main reason I purchased PTE ... my daughter asked me to make a DVD of my grandaughter's 1st year. So creating a DVD was a feature that caught my attention. As others have mentioned, there are other programs that can burn DVD or BR disc. ... but for ole folk like me, that's another program to purchase and learn. I've got my hands full learning PTE. ... just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmG-06100 Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 Hi, Canico and Lacogada! I get your point, but have you tried the USB memory stick option? Most DVD players have a USB port, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideangle Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Hi jmG-06100 I think you may be overlooking the point that Canico was trying to make in that dvd’s provide a good way for distributing sequences to several people to view. I send out sequences of photos to my rambling friends after walks, and dvds are a cheap option costing pence. USB sticks aren’t. Regards wideangle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmG-06100 Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Hello wideangle I get your point, and that's a good option as long as DVDs are not considered as an archival media (my bad past experience). Another option that I use is "cloud" storage to share images and videos, or to send them via transfer web services such as e.g. WeTransfer.com or GrosFichiers.ch (for up to 2 GB or 4 GB file volumes at once and for free), as long as the friends have an internet connection (fast enough if large volumes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideangle Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Hi jmG-06100 Saying "as long as they have an internet connection....." is one assumption too far. Several don't even have a computer! Quite a few are getting on in years and are using walking as a way of trying to keep fit, but haven't walked along the road of becoming silver surfers! Regards wideangle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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